Eliminating Our Interest

It’s been a few weeks and what feels like 100 hours of wrestling, but Jeremy and Matt run through all of it, including a great Impact: No Surrender show, good NXT Vengeance Day, and another subpar showing in the Middle East for WWE.

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Matt: all right so the second time

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Jeremy: so this is the second time we’re doing this but you know who knows uh but you got

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Matt: that you got

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Jeremy: you got a little cocktail that you made non alcohol cocktail with your broken

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Jeremy: skull glass

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Matt: it is uh

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Matt: well now now i’ve finished the bottle by the internet reset it is a non alcoholic

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Matt: bourbon that i’ve mixed with ginger ale

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Matt: it’s quite good uh i do prefer the ritual brand of the non alcoholic spirits but

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Matt: uh this one’s not bad it’s a little sweeter than the other so it goes well with

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Matt: the ginger ale

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Jeremy: tell us why though you you picked that glass though

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Matt: uh well that’s because as of this week we have learned that our our boy stone

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Matt: coal steve austin is probably coming out of retirement for a match at

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Matt: wrestlemania because nothing is sacred anymore

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Matt: how do you feel about this one

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Jeremy: i don’t i don’t feel great uh about it honestly um

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Jeremy: but you know cause i love stone

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Jeremy: cold so much he’s he’s like my favorite um and

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Jeremy: i just

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Matt: and just he ended up relatively well

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Jeremy: he ended it relatively well and i just you know the amount of time he said he’s

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Jeremy: not coming back and and stuff like that i am glad he

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Jeremy: didn’t show up at saudi arabia or something like that like

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Jeremy: you know so i’m i’m really hoping that he keeps it to that i mean it is something

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Jeremy: that will get me back to a wwe show next time comes to la like honestly if i can

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Jeremy: stone cold like i bought a like there was one show we went to where i bought a

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Jeremy: loss angeles three hundred sixteen it was when they first started doing all those

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Jeremy: like you know like brock lesnar supp like city things for each show and i was

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Jeremy: like oh that means he’s gonna be here and then it wasn’t

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Jeremy: at all it was just a wait for them to sell extra merch

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Jeremy: so i was excited about it then i still am excited about it now

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Jeremy: like to see him uh

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Matt: uh c o and

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Jeremy: see i’ll see him i’ll go see him i’ll go to a ww show cause that’ll that’s what

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Jeremy: it’ll take to get me there now

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Jeremy: but at the same time i just i just hope it’s good i hope it’s i hope they don’t i

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Jeremy: don’t know just make him lose immediately to brock lesnar

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Matt: it’s not a bad mentality that that you’ll go just to see him uh seeing as how i

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Matt: it’s not a bad mentality that that you’ll go just to see him uh seeing as how i

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Matt: bought ticket a ticket for raw tomorrow night in colombia just in hopes that cody

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Matt: bought ticket a ticket for raw tomorrow night in colombia just in hopes that cody

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Matt: road shows up since it’s so close to his house

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Matt: road shows up since it’s so close to his house

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Matt: i’m gonna sit through three and a half hours of raw just to see if cody road

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Matt: shows up and champa have a match on main event before the show

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Matt: which if people haven’t been watching main event apparently tomaso has been on

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Matt: the road once a week to do

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Matt: it’s it’s it’s kind of been you know some of the dolph ziggler stuff they’re

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Matt: building towards uh but it’s also that he’s been wrestling on

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Matt: i thought when when that whole thing went away he could go back to being himself

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Matt: who was great and i don’t understand how they haven’t figured out a way to use

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Matt: but yeah i i bought a ticket to go to raw

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Matt: against my better judgment because cody rhodes might be fair so i i i get the i

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Matt: get how you feel about it’ll it’ll put you in the stands i think the

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Matt: counterargument on that that keeps hitting me is that

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Matt: you’ve you’ve put two hundred people on the unemployment line

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Matt: and yet you can still find the sacks of cash to get goldberg to come back or i

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Matt: don’t even want to know how many zeros are on the check it took for stone cold to

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Matt: or either that or they couldn’t get the rock so they were like well i mean we had

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Matt: phenomenal corporate growth um

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Matt: you know you

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Jeremy: yeah so

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Matt: you keep it’s it’s ridiculous

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Jeremy: i mean hopefully it’s so stone cold can can kind of you know call his shot on

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Jeremy: like who he wants to face and who he wants

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Matt: man i think

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Jeremy: with i think you know trying to think about who would be good with it i think

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Matt: i think

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Jeremy: him and kevin owens i think it would be a phenomenal

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Jeremy: considering the fact that he kevin’s

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Matt: y so

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Jeremy: doing the stunner so like you could that would i

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Jeremy: could think that could be a great mat and i feel like someone like kevin would do

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Jeremy: a really great job bumping for stone cold and like i don’t know

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Jeremy: just really making him look look great like a

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Jeremy: like you can

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Jeremy: do it a right way i just don’t i don’t think they’ve done it but it’s also

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Matt: like you can do it the right way

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Jeremy: because they’ve gotten people like goldberg who was never

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Jeremy: the best wrestler to begin with so i think they could do it they they could do it

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Jeremy: right i just think with wwe history that i’m not always i’m not confident that

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Jeremy: they are so like

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Matt: it’s like

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Jeremy: stone coal was going to aw i kind of

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Matt: i gotta like

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Jeremy: feel like they would figure out a way to make that work really well and to

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Jeremy: highlight the best of him i get why he’s not going there like cause he has this

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Jeremy: you know he has a big

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Matt: can speak

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Jeremy: history with with

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Matt: with the w

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Jeremy: wb and

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Jeremy: and also

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Matt: and also pro

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Jeremy: probably the paycheck is

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Jeremy: ginormous the more that tony khan wants tony up

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Matt: i do this

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Matt: yeah so i think

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Jeremy: so i think um

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Jeremy: you know it’s it’s

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Matt: it’s it’s gonna be my thing i just

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Jeremy: it’s gonna be interesting i just i just hope they don’t ruin it i mean

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Jeremy: to to be fair

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Matt: be fair

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Jeremy: they ruined so coal for me once when he turned turn heel and i like that was

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Jeremy: basically when i stopped watching wrestling in the

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Jeremy: so yeah i don’t know we’ll see but uh tell us about our boy moose

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Matt: yes we got impacts

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Matt: what do we call them these premium live events is what we’re calling them now

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Matt: because nothing is nothing is a pay per view anymore um no surrender was saturday

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Matt: night moose retained he defeated morrissey

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Matt: if reports are to be believed there’s a distinct possibility that morris is is

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Matt: almost a free agent i find it i i i have no doubt he’s going back to vince he’s

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Matt: he’s seven feet tall and you can’t teach that um so it’s i i think may have had

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Matt: something to do with it moose is fantastic other hits during no surrender jay

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Matt: white turned on the gorilla of destiny and

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Matt: aligned himself with the good brothers i think it’s got more to do with getting

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Matt: in good with the elite

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Matt: since the bucks seem skeptical still but we’ll see how that plays out matt

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Matt: cardona has retained the social media title after a low blow disqualification

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Matt: function on jordan grace

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Matt: we also got eddie edward’s turned on team impact

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Matt: to get the big win for honor no more so honor no more will continue an impact

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Matt: which i am thrilled about they have done great things with this so far

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Matt: and i’m always always excited to see you know og kingdom those guys are awesome

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Matt: but yeah that was pretty much it there was some ex division stuff but there

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Matt: there’s not really a whole lot that ever changes there they just kind of he the

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Matt: so but uh yeah

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Matt: no surrender was was a a quality show but we also got that wonderful three plus

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Matt: hour shit cho in the desert in saudi arabia that wwe presented elimination

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Matt: with the blood money from the crown prints on saturday as well i’ll let you take

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Matt: that one away cause

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Matt: i’m trying to

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Jeremy: so i only really actually did watch the uh men’s elimination chamber match i mean

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Jeremy: one you know that was the only thing i was really particularly interested in i

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Jeremy: mean i’m sure there were some decent matches on there ahead of time but uh i also

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Jeremy: just kind of forgot that oh wait a minute this is in the morning this is like

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Jeremy: starts at nine a m uh so i tuned in like right when um

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Jeremy: the the

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Jeremy: men’s chamber

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Matt: the men

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Jeremy: entrances were happening bobby lashley was coming into the ring and

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Matt: the what happening on that

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Jeremy: the most interesting thing is they loaded up three of the pods

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Jeremy: and they brought out the the two gentlemen that were gonna start the match and

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Jeremy: then they brought out the fourth entrance to the pod and just just like okay

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Matt: like what make you to biggest star

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Jeremy: here’s your biggest star but still like there’s a order

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Jeremy: that we do things in i don’t know

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Jeremy: it’s just kind of lame

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Matt: i i think i think it did a massive disservice i know they had to fill time and

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Matt: you can’t put brock in there first and expect him to kill you know twenty five

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Matt: fish minutes of match time

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Matt: i mean he did it in that royal rumble where he started number one and went to

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Matt: what eighteen or or no he went all way the end didn’t he

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Jeremy: yeah something like that

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Matt: yeah because it was it was at the end that he got clay mot over the top so he

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Matt: started at the at the first and ran the entirety of that royal rumble so he can

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Matt: do it um

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Matt: i think it would have given how wrong they did bobby lashley with the the injury

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Matt: angle and him not being able to actually

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Matt: participate here

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Matt: had brock actually started this match and had time in the ring with each of these

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Matt: guys so that he didn’t make three former champs look like a chump

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Matt: so that they didn’t have to kill all that time with him just gratuitously beating

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Matt: the hell out of austin theory for seemingly no reason um i mean cause brock got

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Matt: history with rollins i don’t understand why

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Matt: that that wouldn’t have been the guy that he wanted to put a a massive beat down

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Matt: on um because we’re not building towards an austin theory brock lesnar

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Matt: wrestlemania match so all of that was gratuitous it goes nowhere

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Matt: i think it would have done more for him to start the match if he was gonna win um

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Matt: as opposed to him kicking his way out of his pod before actually being released

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Matt: and eliminating all the other competitors when he wasn’t even an active

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Matt: participant in the match

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Matt: i i don’t i don’t know what what they were thinking here the f five off the top

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Matt: just say you’re hurt you can’t compete at a level that a champion should it’s a

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Jeremy: watched it and i’d already watched it at that point where you were concerned

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Jeremy: roman reigns

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Jeremy: with that

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Matt: the diet ho

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Jeremy: you know so that’s obvious where they were going but

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Matt: i’m not

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Jeremy: sure anymore that you know like for a while it was just like when brock came back

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Jeremy: i was like okay this is where roman’s gonna get that that final chance to defeat

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Jeremy: brock which is he’s failed to do all this time

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Matt: stomach in

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Matt: gotta give a lot of credit to bobby lashley on the the selling in that pod though

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Matt: didn’t even cross my mind ’cause the way theory went through the side of that

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Matt: i was actually more worried that the plex glass wasn’t supposed to give cause the

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Matt: like if he moved that plex glass was gonna cut him and

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Matt: we all know that that’s not a real good place to get cut

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Matt: i was more concerned that that something had gone slightly wrong and like he was

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Matt: actually in harm’s way um

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Matt: and though at one point seth

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Jeremy: do you

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Matt: rollins kind of looked at the reff and the ref just kind of shook his head and

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Matt: shrugged like he didn’t know what the hell they were supposed to do um and that

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Matt: that gave me a little bit of pause too so if all of that was selling those guys

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Matt: did the best they could with what they were given um and they they deserve some

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Matt: credit for that but i actually was i was worried for bobby lashley for a bit

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Jeremy: i guess it’ll be interesting but you’ll see the fallout they’re on their way back

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Jeremy: to to columbia south carolina for for ra tomorrow and you’re going

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Matt: i haven’t seen any reports that their uh their plane has been

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Matt: detained in any way so i’m not going to get three hours three hours of nx t

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Matt: talent uh i probably wouldn’t be terribly upset if that was mostly what i got

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Matt: you know pete dunn and champa could probably put on a hour long iron man match

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Matt: and i’d be thrilled with it

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Matt: i don’t i don’t necessarily expect that i’m gonna get there and it’s gonna blow

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Matt: my socks off i think it’s going to be entirely too much promo but i am excited to

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Matt: see if cody shows up and

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Matt: if tomaso gets another main event match which he probably will um it seems like

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Matt: that’s a weekly thing for him now

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Jeremy: yeah i mean hopefully you can just have fun at least you don’t have to drive

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Jeremy: anywhere for it you’re just uh going down the road

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Jeremy: so it’s not it’s nothing like how like you like that one time we went to

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Jeremy: birmingham like to go see a raw

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Matt: yeah they

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Jeremy: although we had a delicious barbecue beforehand

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Matt: there was a

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Matt: basketball game in in the same arena last night so i checked like an hour before

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Matt: the game what traffic looked like and even with delays it was fourteen minutes so

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Matt: i’m pretty thrilled about this i’ve already scouted out like which parking

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Matt: structures a little further out that i can walk in from

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Matt: so yeah hopefully it’s uh it’s a pretty smooth in and out you know if the show’s

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Matt: a complete mess i don’t stay up that late well i do stay up that late with the

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Matt: baby but i don’t i i’m too old for you know eleven o’clock show endings plus the

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Matt: the closing dark match

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Matt: you know unless it’s it’s tony n and uh and sammy doing a tnt title match um i

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Matt: don’t really push myself to stay awake for much but um yeah it it should be fine

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Matt: i mean it you know at this point they’ve they’ve solidified most of wrestlemania

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Matt: so at least it’ll all be mostly progressive towards that

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Matt: other stuff from elimination chamber there wasn’t a whole lot of remarkable

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Matt: show match with miz and mysteria was actually a pretty good one no no real

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Matt: surprise there they’re both really talented dudes it did get some

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Matt: dominant distraction ending that is kind of their go to

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Matt: and lita and becky lynch was a pretty good one um outside of that you know it was

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Matt: just kind of standard fair

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Matt: or less

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Matt: yeah i mean i i think that the biggest problem has become that there’s just

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Matt: there’s no surprise like

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Matt: nobody went into that elimination chamber and thought anybody but bianco was

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Matt: gonna walk out of there as the the winner like nobody ex i i didn’t look at at

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Matt: vegas betting odds because i could have guaranteed it was like twelve thousand to

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Matt: one for everybody else in that match except for her and she was probably like a

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Matt: one to one odds on um

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Matt: like i i mean throw me a curve ball every now and then like

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Matt: id like to see i i get it you know the squash from summer slam now bianca gets to

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Matt: talk up her redemption even though she’s lost to becky like eighty seven times

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Matt: since since summer slam like there’s there’s nothing there

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Matt: if you couldn’t if you couldn’t get over the hump those other times why can you

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Matt: suddenly do it now after you’ve been through the most grueling match in wwe

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Matt: i mean you’re going into this thing less than one hundred percent so nobody’s

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Matt: buying it um

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Matt: i mean i didn’t want i it’s the wrong time for liv morgan to get a wrestlemania

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Matt: moment cause you you turned her into a chump

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Matt: de do drop just lost um i mean

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Matt: at least alexa bliss would have been a bit of a curve ball since she like just

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Matt: came back um i don’t it i i think that’s become the biggest problem is that it’s

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Matt: every detail of it is so predictable

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Matt: and i i’d love to just get a curve ball every now and then

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Jeremy: but like an earned curb also too not just like i don’t know i feel like

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Matt: i feel like

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Jeremy: all their curve balls are like black unless they’re showing up now

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Matt: well at legt

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Jeremy: in another match somehow

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Matt: you remember that the the intercontinental ladder match

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Jeremy: right it made me thirty two

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Matt: kevin owens daniel bryan were in there

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Matt: and then just out of nowhere zach ryder gets the win like give us that moment

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Matt: i i don’t know like they’re capable of it just do it

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Matt: and it amazes me

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Jeremy: well i mean i do those moments but they do those moments but it’s like the

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Jeremy: what we want to follow up we want to follow up to

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Jeremy: to that too like like with ryder basically

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Matt: please correct

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Jeremy: losing right away the intercontinental championship with big e like

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Jeremy: no real good follow up there with its championship run

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Jeremy: so that’s the thing

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Matt: that’s the thing like great

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Jeremy: like they’re great at giving you moments but like i want i want that to feel a

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Jeremy: little bit more earned

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Jeremy: going forward

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Jeremy: um cause they

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Matt: yeah they they double botched on big e too i

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Matt: mean that that whole let’s announce on twitter two days ahead of time that he’s

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Matt: going to cash in on that specific raw

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Matt: so you know he’s gonna win

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Matt: it just

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Matt: they they they really screwed him over pretty bad that’s upsetting i i try not to

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Matt: think about it too often

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Matt: it’s it’s been what at uh two weeks now since we’ve done one of these um

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Matt: lots of stuff what what jumps out from the from the two weeks that have been in

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Matt: your mind

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Jeremy: uh well you had that very bloody

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Jeremy: uh well we had keith lee showing up we had

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Jeremy: who we were basically sure by the time we finished that podcast we had

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Matt: we have

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Jeremy: j white

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Matt: they might help doing it

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Jeremy: also showing up which led to a a very good match between him and

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Jeremy: on rampage what

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Jeremy: else we have a very bloody match with uh with lance archer and um hangman with

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Jeremy: hangman retaining the championship there not surprised but i was a little

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Jeremy: surprised how bloody it got

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Jeremy: but maybe i shouldn’t be i don’t know hangman’s a bleeder

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Matt: he he bleeds a lot

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Jeremy: he might got some he might have got some so one of the kind of a friend of a

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Jeremy: his former roommate was sk dig mondo and he was always talking about like you

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Jeremy: know my

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Matt: my friend

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Jeremy: friend’s not really at all like interested in wrestling um but he

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Jeremy: he was just talking about it and he was talking about how death matches i think

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Jeremy: they would take aspirin which like thins a blood so like when

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Jeremy: but yeah i don’t know if he’s doing that but obviously

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Jeremy: someone like sick nick mando was doing that all the time cause uh yeah death

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Jeremy: i was just really impressed with the rampage specifically this week i mean

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Jeremy: dynamic was good like pretty solid show all around but rampage you had that j

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Jeremy: white match

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Matt: see like that

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Jeremy: with the

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Jeremy: with trent

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Jeremy: which was the main event

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Matt: make that

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Jeremy: you had dante martin versus will hobbs which i thought was excellent

470
00:22:43,041 –> 00:22:44,961
Matt: excellent match excellent match

471
00:22:44,560 –> 00:22:45,680
Jeremy: yeah um

472
00:22:46,880 –> 00:22:50,240
Jeremy: and well we had we had something up to to open up the match oh you

473
00:22:49,941 –> 00:22:50,941
Matt: oh yeah

474
00:22:50,240 –> 00:22:55,200
Jeremy: had ten versus uh adam cole which i thought was a pretty good match although

475
00:22:55,280 –> 00:22:59,920
Jeremy: there was one like i think a german that was like ooh adam fell a little bit too

476
00:23:00,080 –> 00:23:01,600
Jeremy: far back on his neck i would say

477
00:23:02,341 –> 00:23:03,341
478
00:23:02,500 –> 00:23:03,500
479
00:23:04,340 –> 00:23:05,340
480
00:23:06,161 –> 00:23:10,401
Matt: yeah no that that match was great and and tan look like a monster um

481
00:23:10,340 –> 00:23:11,340
482
00:23:10,721 –> 00:23:11,841
Matt: it was it was a good show

483
00:23:13,521 –> 00:23:18,161
Matt: you know for the for the super loud voices that are still saying adam cole is too

484
00:23:18,321 –> 00:23:22,081
Matt: small to carry a company uh to put him in there with a guy like that and have

485
00:23:22,241 –> 00:23:24,081
Matt: them put on that kind of match um

486
00:23:24,100 –> 00:23:25,100
487
00:23:24,881 –> 00:23:28,401
Matt: right before he goes into his revolution match with adam page

488
00:23:28,260 –> 00:23:29,260
489
00:23:29,921 –> 00:23:33,601
Matt: i th i thought that was that was a good piece of booking um to to keep him in

490
00:23:33,681 –> 00:23:35,201
Matt: there with bigger guys for a little bit

491
00:23:36,561 –> 00:23:40,401
Matt: build him up as a contender you know something that the other company doesn’t

492
00:23:40,641 –> 00:23:42,241
Matt: like to do is build up potentials

493
00:23:44,321 –> 00:23:47,281
Matt: dante martin and hobbes that match was great um

494
00:23:47,460 –> 00:23:48,460
495
00:23:48,001 –> 00:23:51,121
Matt: and now we’re looking at the face of the revolution match is uh

496
00:23:52,140 –> 00:23:53,140
Jeremy: big boys

497
00:23:52,161 –> 00:23:54,401
Matt: hobbs ward low and uh

498
00:23:54,180 –> 00:23:55,180
499
00:23:54,801 –> 00:23:57,681
Matt: and keith lee so far right i mean that

500
00:23:57,300 –> 00:23:58,300
501
00:23:57,921 –> 00:24:02,241
Matt: they need to they as as michael cole always says they’re gonna have to reinforce

502
00:23:57,921 –> 00:24:02,241
Matt: they need to they as as michael cole always says they’re gonna have to reinforce

503
00:24:02,301 –> 00:24:03,301
Matt: the ring for this one

504
00:24:02,301 –> 00:24:03,301
Matt: the ring for this one

505
00:24:04,580 –> 00:24:05,580
506
00:24:05,061 –> 00:24:06,061
Matt: i i cannot

507
00:24:05,280 –> 00:24:06,480
Jeremy: as big a big you say

508
00:24:07,540 –> 00:24:08,540
Jeremy: as big you would

509
00:24:07,861 –> 00:24:08,861
510
00:24:08,400 –> 00:24:10,160
Jeremy: say big meaty men slapping meat

511
00:24:11,841 –> 00:24:13,921
Matt: yeah i i can’t i can’t wait

512
00:24:15,281 –> 00:24:19,201
Matt: i i’m i’m so thrilled cause i mean

513
00:24:20,241 –> 00:24:25,441
Matt: ward low has been right there right there for so long and hobbs too and i i’ve

514
00:24:25,521 –> 00:24:29,121
Matt: been i’ve been preaching it for a couple of weeks now that i wanted both of those

515
00:24:29,201 –> 00:24:33,921
Matt: guys to get like and now they’re getting it just just all at once i’m so thrilled

516
00:24:34,001 –> 00:24:37,601
Matt: about it and keith lee’s amazing anyways

517
00:24:38,501 –> 00:24:39,501
Matt: there’s a

518
00:24:41,041 –> 00:24:45,361
Matt: the fourth mat the the fourth qualifiers this week right um cause

519
00:24:45,441 –> 00:24:48,241
Matt: it’s how many guys or how many guys are in this match six

520
00:24:45,680 –> 00:24:46,800
Jeremy: i think so i mean it would

521
00:24:49,280 –> 00:24:50,800
Jeremy: i i wanna say six yeah

522
00:24:51,521 –> 00:24:55,761
Matt: okay so we’ve got a couple more qualifiers they’ll probably have to put since

523
00:24:55,841 –> 00:25:00,081
Matt: it’s a ladder match they’ll probably need to find a way to get some smaller guys

524
00:24:59,821 –> 00:25:00,821
Matt: in there

525
00:25:00,340 –> 00:25:01,340
526
00:25:02,561 –> 00:25:06,481
Matt: a little disappointed that dante martin’s eliminated because because he does some

527
00:25:06,881 –> 00:25:09,521
Matt: some just utterly amazing things and i’d like

528
00:25:09,220 –> 00:25:10,220
529
00:25:09,601 –> 00:25:11,601
Matt: to see him work with a ladder but

530
00:25:12,960 –> 00:25:18,960
Jeremy: we’re just seeing how high keith lee yedi it’s maybe be also a shame that he’s

531
00:25:18,960 –> 00:25:20,160
Jeremy: not in there either so

532
00:25:20,641 –> 00:25:22,561
Matt: that’s true he ate that bunk pretty well

533
00:25:24,501 –> 00:25:25,501
534
00:25:26,321 –> 00:25:30,881
Matt: you know it’s it’s funny cause and it’s it’s just because i i love him so much

535
00:25:32,561 –> 00:25:38,721
Matt: but the most notable thing in the last two weeks for me was the shadowy figure in

536
00:25:38,801 –> 00:25:40,401
Matt: the back of the house of black

537
00:25:41,441 –> 00:25:46,081
Matt: vignette that we got cause it was very clearly buddy matthews

538
00:25:48,241 –> 00:25:50,641
Matt: and i i popped like it i didn’t even

539
00:25:50,260 –> 00:25:51,260
540
00:25:50,721 –> 00:25:52,721
Matt: see his actual face and i popped for it

541
00:25:53,921 –> 00:25:58,241
Matt: i can’t wait that guys hell let’s get him in that match ’cause i’ve seen what he

542
00:25:58,261 –> 00:25:59,261
Matt: can do with with

543
00:26:00,321 –> 00:26:02,241
Matt: in those those cruiser type spots

544
00:26:04,081 –> 00:26:08,081
Matt: just yeah let’s let’s get him in there he’s strong enough that he can he can work

545
00:26:08,241 –> 00:26:09,761
Matt: the big moves on the big guys

546
00:26:09,620 –> 00:26:10,620
547
00:26:10,081 –> 00:26:13,361
Matt: and then he he can do the cruiser stuff too so that would that would be an

548
00:26:13,361 –> 00:26:16,081
Matt: awesome an awesome spot for him um

549
00:26:17,121 –> 00:26:19,841
Matt: yeah that that stood out pretty pretty hardcore

550
00:26:21,780 –> 00:26:22,780
Jeremy: and then we had

551
00:26:22,221 –> 00:26:23,221
Matt: i could

552
00:26:22,700 –> 00:26:23,700
Jeremy: we had

553
00:26:24,400 –> 00:26:28,640
Jeremy: you know we had the um we’ve got a dog collar match coming up which makes me real

554
00:26:28,720 –> 00:26:33,760
Jeremy: uncomfortable honestly i didn’t like watching the brodie lee um cody rhodes one

555
00:26:33,840 –> 00:26:37,280
Jeremy: which they mentioned a lot for for the fact that cody rhoads just left to come

556
00:26:37,440 –> 00:26:40,320
Jeremy: come they wanted to remind you that match existed

557
00:26:41,300 –> 00:26:42,300
558
00:26:41,701 –> 00:26:42,701
559
00:26:42,460 –> 00:26:43,460
Jeremy: yeah we

560
00:26:43,280 –> 00:26:47,360
Jeremy: got that coming up and then what i really like is really great promo battle

561
00:26:43,281 –> 00:26:46,321
Matt: you have to back up and then like

562
00:26:47,420 –> 00:26:48,420
Jeremy: between brian

563
00:26:48,181 –> 00:26:49,181
564
00:26:48,480 –> 00:26:49,600
Jeremy: danielson and max

565
00:26:50,540 –> 00:26:51,540
566
00:26:51,221 –> 00:26:52,221
Matt: particularly box

567
00:26:51,280 –> 00:26:56,800
Jeremy: max just he’s just great on the ma mike and so is so is danielson and basically

568
00:26:56,741 –> 00:26:57,741
569
00:26:57,920 –> 00:27:01,760
Jeremy: max has talked about how the fact he’s never actually beaten danielson

570
00:27:03,520 –> 00:27:04,880
Jeremy: but then you know talk about mi

571
00:27:04,421 –> 00:27:05,421
572
00:27:05,100 –> 00:27:06,100
Jeremy: maybe danielson is

573
00:27:06,080 –> 00:27:10,240
Jeremy: afraid that you know of mocks beating him and that’s why they’ve kind of changed

574
00:27:06,401 –> 00:27:09,601
Matt: b you know of the meetings and that one

575
00:27:10,240 –> 00:27:13,280
Jeremy: their he’s changed his mind about teaming with him instead but

576
00:27:17,620 –> 00:27:18,620
Jeremy: so we’re

577
00:27:18,560 –> 00:27:21,760
Jeremy: getting that match so i i liked how they they put it together

578
00:27:18,561 –> 00:27:20,081
Matt: yeah that this one

579
00:27:22,321 –> 00:27:26,641
Matt: that one’s gonna be brutal i don’t know when they’re gonna do that match because

580
00:27:26,721 –> 00:27:30,161
Matt: i i thought it would have been great if they ended up in one of these two uh

581
00:27:31,281 –> 00:27:33,201
Matt: tag team elimination matches

582
00:27:33,941 –> 00:27:34,941
583
00:27:35,521 –> 00:27:40,801
Matt: just to cause that that would that would be huge but i guess you need them to get

584
00:27:40,881 –> 00:27:43,521
Matt: that singles match out of the way on one of these cards

585
00:27:43,780 –> 00:27:44,780
586
00:27:44,801 –> 00:27:49,041
Matt: pay per view cards so it’s it’s it’s going to be in orlando it’s probably why the

587
00:27:49,121 –> 00:27:51,841
Matt: ticket prices have continued to rise instead of

588
00:27:51,700 –> 00:27:52,700
589
00:27:52,721 –> 00:27:57,201
Matt: dropping as we get closer to the date because yes i’m watching

590
00:27:58,401 –> 00:28:02,801
Matt: i don’t i don’t know how the hell to make it work but i have been watching ticket

591
00:28:02,821 –> 00:28:03,821
Matt: prices um

592
00:28:04,801 –> 00:28:10,401
Matt: so we’ll see we we both know that means i’m going one way or another um

593
00:28:11,601 –> 00:28:17,281
Matt: but yeah so we’re we’re heading towards that that was a great promo um and daniel

594
00:28:17,441 –> 00:28:24,241
Matt: since he worked here lately i i am beyond impressed um you know for the for the

595
00:28:23,860 –> 00:28:24,860
596
00:28:24,621 –> 00:28:25,621
Matt: the yes man

597
00:28:27,681 –> 00:28:30,401
Matt: that the heel work is is otherworldly

598
00:28:31,201 –> 00:28:36,321
Matt: watching him just stomp the out of everybody he gets in the ring with it it’s

599
00:28:31,260 –> 00:28:32,260
Jeremy: what ended

600
00:28:36,481 –> 00:28:37,601
Matt: it’s something special

601
00:28:39,440 –> 00:28:42,640
Jeremy: i think the what works really well is his him

602
00:28:42,581 –> 00:28:43,581
603
00:28:43,280 –> 00:28:44,560
Jeremy: the way he’s portraying that

604
00:28:44,181 –> 00:28:45,181
605
00:28:45,200 –> 00:28:47,200
Jeremy: it is that he doesn’t believe he’s a heel

606
00:28:47,701 –> 00:28:48,701
607
00:28:48,720 –> 00:28:53,600
Jeremy: like a lot of the people he’s wanting to bring together on a team together with

608
00:28:53,340 –> 00:28:54,340
609
00:28:55,200 –> 00:28:59,040
Jeremy: a lot of them there’s some of them are ill some of them are faces like so he’s he

610
00:28:59,120 –> 00:29:02,080
Jeremy: is not playing this like traditional heel face he is

611
00:29:01,621 –> 00:29:02,621
612
00:29:02,960 –> 00:29:06,000
Jeremy: he is doing heelish things but he believes that he is like a hundred percent

613
00:29:06,260 –> 00:29:07,260
Jeremy: right which i think is

614
00:29:06,741 –> 00:29:07,741
615
00:29:07,360 –> 00:29:08,400
Jeremy: definitely like making it better

616
00:29:09,601 –> 00:29:12,961
Matt: oh yeah he he’s got some some lex luther vibes like i’m i’m

617
00:29:12,740 –> 00:29:13,740
618
00:29:12,901 –> 00:29:13,901
Matt: i’m feeling it

619
00:29:15,520 –> 00:29:20,400
Jeremy: and uh let’s let’s finish up with a little bit of talk about a tuesday night show

620
00:29:21,280 –> 00:29:22,480
Jeremy: do you get a chance to watch it

621
00:29:22,781 –> 00:29:23,781
Matt: i did

622
00:29:22,980 –> 00:29:23,980
623
00:29:24,181 –> 00:29:25,181
624
00:29:25,921 –> 00:29:27,761
Matt: this was new year’s evil this week yeah

625
00:29:28,460 –> 00:29:29,460
626
00:29:28,941 –> 00:29:29,941
Matt: not a

627
00:29:29,520 –> 00:29:31,600
Jeremy: saint balan or something to do

628
00:29:31,141 –> 00:29:32,141
629
00:29:31,620 –> 00:29:32,620
Jeremy: with valentine’s day

630
00:29:33,041 –> 00:29:34,641
Matt: oh yeah vengeance day

631
00:29:35,360 –> 00:29:36,560
Jeremy: yeah venters day yeah

632
00:29:36,161 –> 00:29:38,721
Matt: shit i’m a month and a half behind it’s

633
00:29:40,081 –> 00:29:46,401
Matt: sleep deprivation folks vengeance day not not a whole lot changed here all the

634
00:29:46,481 –> 00:29:49,441
Matt: champs who were still are um

635
00:29:50,981 –> 00:29:51,981
Matt: we did get another

636
00:29:52,961 –> 00:29:58,241
Matt: appearance from dolph ziggler we are going to get a dolph ziggler champa match

637
00:29:58,401 –> 00:30:03,361
Matt: this week on n xt which i’m i’m excited about and if the rumors are to be

638
00:30:03,521 –> 00:30:05,601
Matt: believed dolph ziggler will challenge

639
00:30:07,121 –> 00:30:09,601
Matt: b breaker for the nx t championship

640
00:30:11,921 –> 00:30:17,441
Matt: at noon on a saturday before day one of the most stupendous wrestlemania in

641
00:30:17,141 –> 00:30:18,141
642
00:30:18,060 –> 00:30:19,060
Jeremy: oh my god

643
00:30:20,401 –> 00:30:23,041
Matt: have we have relegated takeovers to noon

644
00:30:25,460 –> 00:30:26,460
645
00:30:26,721 –> 00:30:27,761
Matt: okay just

646
00:30:31,041 –> 00:30:32,481
Matt: i’m baffled

647
00:30:34,081 –> 00:30:39,201
Matt: you’ve got a three hour tv spot on monday nights just do takeover instead of raw

648
00:30:39,541 –> 00:30:40,541
649
00:30:41,781 –> 00:30:42,781
Matt: do something put

650
00:30:42,340 –> 00:30:43,340
651
00:30:42,881 –> 00:30:46,641
Matt: it in prime time but you putting these guys on at noon

652
00:30:47,841 –> 00:30:51,361
Matt: on a weekend you’re just asking for nobody to watch it

653
00:30:52,101 –> 00:30:53,101
654
00:30:52,340 –> 00:30:53,340
655
00:30:52,881 –> 00:30:57,201
Matt: your die hards aren’t tuning into at noon on a saturday unless it’s a college

656
00:30:57,441 –> 00:31:03,601
Matt: football game um so it’s i don’t know the thinking there the hall of fame

657
00:31:03,841 –> 00:31:08,081
Matt: presentation could easily be something you televise at noon on a saturday

658
00:31:09,441 –> 00:31:14,161
Matt: cause only your most die hards are gonna watch that like it who gives a shit

659
00:31:15,841 –> 00:31:19,041
Matt: you’re basically telling us that your two point zero thing isn’t working and

660
00:31:19,121 –> 00:31:22,721
Matt: you’re just this is just where it fits into your day um

661
00:31:22,820 –> 00:31:23,820
662
00:31:24,081 –> 00:31:30,081
Matt: so it’s it’s disappointing mandy rose look great as always toxic attraction

663
00:31:30,241 –> 00:31:34,881
Matt: retained their tag team titles they look pretty good in that match pete dunn and

664
00:31:34,961 –> 00:31:42,241
Matt: tony d had a a fairly brutal uh cage match sorry weaponized cage match also

665
00:31:42,801 –> 00:31:45,361
Matt: formerly known as the ambrose asylum

666
00:31:46,641 –> 00:31:50,721
Matt: i did like that the the weapons weren’t in weird little buckets at the top of the

667
00:31:50,421 –> 00:31:51,421
668
00:31:50,740 –> 00:31:51,740
669
00:31:51,201 –> 00:31:54,241
Matt: they were like bungee corded to the cage itself

670
00:31:56,321 –> 00:32:01,601
Matt: couple of gnarly spots in that one at one point you know they landed on like the

671
00:32:01,681 –> 00:32:07,281
Matt: corners of the trash can instead of in the center the table the table broke like

672
00:32:07,361 –> 00:32:11,121
Matt: it was supposed to but it still like came down on him funny just

673
00:32:10,900 –> 00:32:11,900
674
00:32:11,201 –> 00:32:17,201
Matt: a couple of real real gnarly bumps um carmelo hayes and cameron grimes had one

675
00:32:17,361 –> 00:32:19,201
Matt: hell of a match both those

676
00:32:19,180 –> 00:32:20,180
Jeremy: chef’s kiss

677
00:32:19,281 –> 00:32:24,161
Matt: guys are excellent yep that was a that was just a fantastic match

678
00:32:26,961 –> 00:32:31,921
Matt: who oh santos ca bar he looked pretty good in that title match

679
00:32:33,121 –> 00:32:37,521
Matt: but again you you knew they weren’t taking that belt off bran breaker anytime

680
00:32:37,181 –> 00:32:38,181
681
00:32:37,540 –> 00:32:38,540
682
00:32:37,701 –> 00:32:38,701
683
00:32:39,301 –> 00:32:40,301
Matt: like and i

684
00:32:39,920 –> 00:32:45,360
Jeremy: man i love santos escobar themes i love legato do f tasman steam song i don’t

685
00:32:45,020 –> 00:32:46,020
Jeremy: know it’ ager

686
00:32:45,221 –> 00:32:46,221
687
00:32:45,680 –> 00:32:48,000
Jeremy: it’s one of the of few bangers that they have anymore wwe but it’s great

688
00:32:49,601 –> 00:32:54,641
Matt: yeah cause they they’ve moved to all this like probably royalty free uh

689
00:32:54,580 –> 00:32:55,580
690
00:32:54,741 –> 00:32:55,741
Matt: theme music

691
00:32:56,420 –> 00:32:57,420
692
00:32:57,041 –> 00:33:01,841
Matt: but yeah there’s this great their whole entrance is fantastic their their

693
00:33:02,081 –> 00:33:05,841
Matt: presentation has been awesome i love the slick suits

694
00:33:06,881 –> 00:33:10,721
Matt: essentially it’s what andrade was trying to do the whole time and they just

695
00:33:10,781 –> 00:33:11,781
Matt: didn’t let him do it

696
00:33:13,441 –> 00:33:16,481
Matt: i mean the slick suits and then them they’re always together

697
00:33:17,921 –> 00:33:22,241
Matt: just regard you never see them apart and that’s what a factions supposed to look

698
00:33:22,401 –> 00:33:28,641
Matt: like um like hogan nash and hall were always together and that’s why the nwo

699
00:33:28,881 –> 00:33:32,161
Matt: worked as a unit uh it it’s it’s all appearances

700
00:33:33,841 –> 00:33:38,721
Matt: i i don’t know i i think they waited way too long to get escobar into this spot

701
00:33:39,841 –> 00:33:43,441
Matt: and and that’s disappointing because he probably could have had a couple of great

702
00:33:43,601 –> 00:33:45,921
Matt: title defenses had he got that belt sooner

703
00:33:47,841 –> 00:33:51,521
Matt: but yeah i mean the the show was good all the matches were solid i can’t think of

704
00:33:51,601 –> 00:33:53,441
Matt: a one that that wasn’t um

705
00:33:54,641 –> 00:34:00,321
Matt: so yeah it’s it’s n xt it’s it’s still you know for the most part it’s still your

706
00:34:00,801 –> 00:34:05,521
Matt: your indie guys killing themselves indie guys and and women because the women

707
00:34:05,140 –> 00:34:06,140
708
00:34:05,841 –> 00:34:12,001
Matt: have been the the shining star of nx t since two point zero started even the the

709
00:34:12,081 –> 00:34:18,721
Matt: weird gimmicks like the the the wrestler that wendy ch wendy chew i think that

710
00:34:18,801 –> 00:34:24,321
Matt: wrestles in a snuggie and like her gimmick is that she likes to nap like that

711
00:34:24,980 –> 00:34:25,980
712
00:34:26,321 –> 00:34:30,481
Matt: what it whatever she’s good in the ring so i’m good with it uh the tiffany

713
00:34:30,561 –> 00:34:32,881
Matt: stratton gimmick doesn’t necessarily work

714
00:34:34,561 –> 00:34:39,361
Matt: but she’s she’s decent in the ring too you’ve still got tons of talent with

715
00:34:40,561 –> 00:34:45,921
Matt: caley ray and and mandy rose is incredibly talented even though she’s got all

716
00:34:46,081 –> 00:34:47,361
Matt: those old diva vibes

717
00:34:49,121 –> 00:34:53,521
Matt: so yeah they’re they’re still doing they’re putting on good shows i really wish

718
00:34:53,601 –> 00:34:55,361
Matt: they weren’t at noon on saturdays but

719
00:34:56,400 –> 00:35:00,400
Jeremy: yeah the one thing i wish you know with some of these development people like you

720
00:35:00,480 –> 00:35:03,120
Jeremy: have promo class but they’re doing all these vignettes and stuff

721
00:35:05,200 –> 00:35:10,000
Jeremy: have some acting coach come over and just like have a week long session like some

722
00:35:10,080 –> 00:35:14,720
Jeremy: of these whatever that one was were about the friend zone and like they were in a

723
00:35:14,700 –> 00:35:15,700
Jeremy: bar which i guess

724
00:35:15,461 –> 00:35:16,461
725
00:35:15,760 –> 00:35:18,960
Jeremy: technically the that that actual wrestler is not even twenty one

726
00:35:20,400 –> 00:35:25,040
Jeremy: so like uh i don’t know man that just real rough and it was just like this is

727
00:35:25,200 –> 00:35:29,600
Jeremy: like first year film school like situation right now and i’m like i don’t want to

728
00:35:29,680 –> 00:35:32,400
Jeremy: watch this on on television so

729
00:35:32,641 –> 00:35:37,121
Matt: it’s and what what kills me is that it’s it’s not like they don’t have guys there

730
00:35:37,361 –> 00:35:38,801
Matt: that could help like

731
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732
00:35:39,681 –> 00:35:45,201
Matt: everything that cameron grimes and la knight did together was gold like so

733
00:35:45,281 –> 00:35:46,561
Matt: they’ve got people there that

734
00:35:46,260 –> 00:35:47,260
735
00:35:46,721 –> 00:35:50,721
Matt: could be that like if you don’t want to hire an acting coach which right now

736
00:35:50,801 –> 00:35:53,841
Matt: they’re not hiring anybody except overpriced part timers

737
00:35:55,361 –> 00:35:59,841
Matt: so if you need somebody to help coach this younger crop of talent in those things

738
00:36:00,081 –> 00:36:05,681
Matt: they’re there utilize them but yeah that that vignette in the bar that was hard

739
00:36:05,841 –> 00:36:06,961
Matt: to watch um

740
00:36:07,380 –> 00:36:08,380
741
00:36:08,161 –> 00:36:13,121
Matt: i mean as much as i love rachel gonzales that is her weakest point too um

742
00:36:12,820 –> 00:36:13,820
743
00:36:14,321 –> 00:36:15,921
Matt: cause she does not she never

744
00:36:15,980 –> 00:36:16,980
Jeremy: one zero

745
00:36:16,161 –> 00:36:21,521
Matt: comes across as as like that brutal mean bads that she’s trying to portray she

746
00:36:21,681 –> 00:36:22,881
Matt: just seems like a super

747
00:36:22,780 –> 00:36:23,780
Jeremy: there are down

748
00:36:23,041 –> 00:36:25,121
Matt: nice lady that happens to be jacked

749
00:36:26,100 –> 00:36:27,100
750
00:36:26,641 –> 00:36:31,441
Matt: so it’s like it i agree with you a hundred percent that that’s that’s the weakest

751
00:36:31,521 –> 00:36:33,361
Matt: part of nx is that they they need

752
00:36:35,761 –> 00:36:39,921
Matt: they’re they’re bringing in you know i don’t i don’t want to call them washed up

753
00:36:40,001 –> 00:36:44,161
Matt: football players but let let’s call it what it is a lot of the talent that gets

754
00:36:44,241 –> 00:36:45,441
Matt: brought in that’s what they are

755
00:36:47,041 –> 00:36:51,601
Matt: and they could use a little help ah cause you’re not going to find a lot of guys

756
00:36:51,681 –> 00:36:53,041
Matt: with gronk personality

757
00:36:53,460 –> 00:36:54,460
758
00:36:53,461 –> 00:36:54,461
759
00:36:55,041 –> 00:36:59,121
Matt: that that just show up for a a performance center try out so

760
00:37:00,020 –> 00:37:01,020
761
00:37:02,220 –> 00:37:03,220
Jeremy: well you know

762
00:37:04,060 –> 00:37:05,060
Jeremy: we’ll see what they

763
00:37:04,621 –> 00:37:05,621
764
00:37:04,960 –> 00:37:11,120
Jeremy: do i don’t really expect much to change but they’re they seem to be um just

765
00:37:11,100 –> 00:37:12,100
Jeremy: moving along with

766
00:37:11,541 –> 00:37:12,541
767
00:37:12,000 –> 00:37:15,280
Jeremy: two point zero and make making sure to remind you that we’re in development

768
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769
00:37:16,240 –> 00:37:17,680
Jeremy: this is a development it was a

770
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771
00:37:17,760 –> 00:37:20,560
Jeremy: cool enty super show before and now it’s development

772
00:37:20,901 –> 00:37:21,901
Matt: you want that

773
00:37:21,120 –> 00:37:22,400
Jeremy: which is just a little sad

774
00:37:23,201 –> 00:37:26,641
Matt: you you want that shit you should have been watching ring of honor

775
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776
00:37:28,241 –> 00:37:29,281
Matt: i i i’m still

777
00:37:29,941 –> 00:37:30,941
778
00:37:31,841 –> 00:37:36,001
Matt: i i don’t get it it was it was wildly successful all of the

779
00:37:35,860 –> 00:37:36,860
780
00:37:36,081 –> 00:37:42,561
Matt: takeovers sold out arenas so there’s one night a week that that you do a little

781
00:37:42,721 –> 00:37:44,081
Matt: less on tv like

782
00:37:45,201 –> 00:37:49,361
Matt: it’s even when nx t was like peaking it was not

783
00:37:50,481 –> 00:37:55,361
Matt: it wasn’t your big brands you didn’t roman reins and brock lesnar were not going

784
00:37:55,441 –> 00:37:56,481
Matt: to show up on nx t

785
00:37:57,921 –> 00:38:01,601
Matt: you can’t expect nx t to have smackdown ratings

786
00:38:02,721 –> 00:38:05,761
Matt: like it it just was never gonna happen and that’s what they thought

787
00:38:07,681 –> 00:38:12,321
Matt: meanwhile you’re you’re putting you know you your indie darling show that you

788
00:38:12,401 –> 00:38:17,601
Matt: know you have a substantial fan base for up against a show that can parade out

789
00:38:17,761 –> 00:38:24,241
Matt: chris jericho and sting shows up and you honestly it got to the point there early

790
00:38:24,401 –> 00:38:29,441
Matt: on where you didn’t know who would show up in aw that’s why you lost the ratings

791
00:38:29,061 –> 00:38:30,061
792
00:38:30,660 –> 00:38:31,660
793
00:38:31,201 –> 00:38:32,721
Matt: shock and all um

794
00:38:34,081 –> 00:38:38,241
Matt: you know you as a wrestling fan even if you didn’t know who any of these guys

795
00:38:38,321 –> 00:38:44,161
Matt: were you’d heard kenny omega ‘s name for years xavier woods has been saying it

796
00:38:44,241 –> 00:38:45,601
Matt: for years so

797
00:38:46,100 –> 00:38:47,100
798
00:38:47,201 –> 00:38:51,761
Matt: like you were tuning in to see these things that you’d heard about for so long

799
00:38:52,801 –> 00:38:57,041
Matt: and we watched n xt on our dvrs it’s not like we weren’t watching what you were

800
00:38:56,981 –> 00:38:57,981
Matt: putting out there

801
00:38:58,580 –> 00:38:59,580
802
00:38:59,681 –> 00:39:03,921
Matt: so i don’t know it the mentality seems flawed um

803
00:39:05,041 –> 00:39:09,361
Matt: you know you’re not losing ratings on your main show because your talent isn’t

804
00:39:09,681 –> 00:39:14,161
Matt: you know ultimate warrior you losing talent or you’re losing ratings on your main

805
00:39:14,241 –> 00:39:20,401
Matt: show because your main show sucks and you’re n xt now is going to look just like

806
00:39:20,561 –> 00:39:26,241
Matt: that so n xt is gonna suck and nobody’s gonna watch that it’s i i don’t know i

807
00:39:26,241 –> 00:39:27,281
Matt: don’t and now we’ve

808
00:39:28,401 –> 00:39:32,721
Matt: did you see that two hundred five live is officially gone and rebranded as

809
00:39:32,961 –> 00:39:34,801
Matt: essentially nx d dark

810
00:39:36,001 –> 00:39:37,441
Matt: nx d dark elevation

811
00:39:36,480 –> 00:39:37,600
Jeremy: nx level up

812
00:39:38,900 –> 00:39:39,900
813
00:39:39,141 –> 00:39:40,141
814
00:39:39,300 –> 00:39:40,300
815
00:39:40,801 –> 00:39:43,281
Matt: it’s their version of dark elevation so

816
00:39:45,361 –> 00:39:49,761
Matt: whatever at least they at least they’re not trying to limp two oh five live along

817
00:39:51,361 –> 00:39:54,721
Matt: to the point where they completely tarnish everything that it did accomplish

818
00:39:56,321 –> 00:39:58,961
Matt: to i i don’t know i don’t know what the hell they’re doing

819
00:40:00,720 –> 00:40:04,160
Jeremy: i almost wish it was like some kind of like metaverse bullshit where the only way

820
00:40:04,240 –> 00:40:06,880
Jeremy: you could watch it was in an oculus rift or something like that

821
00:40:08,161 –> 00:40:13,201
Matt: that honestly i would if if you just had guys randomly sitting in the audience

822
00:40:13,281 –> 00:40:17,121
Matt: with those headsets on that fill it like that foo fighters concert the other

823
00:40:17,281 –> 00:40:18,321
Matt: night that would have

824
00:40:18,020 –> 00:40:19,020
825
00:40:18,401 –> 00:40:23,281
Matt: been cool like i would i would sit and watch nx t through my oculus that it kind

826
00:40:23,341 –> 00:40:24,341
Matt: of feel like i was there

827
00:40:25,441 –> 00:40:29,441
Matt: the the sound on that thing’s so loud it’s like you’re actually in a damn room uh

828
00:40:29,421 –> 00:40:30,421
Matt: five nights at

829
00:40:29,860 –> 00:40:30,860
830
00:40:30,241 –> 00:40:33,361
Matt: freddy’s on the oculus is the most terrifying ever

831
00:40:34,640 –> 00:40:38,800
Jeremy: e i can’t even i just i just watch lets plays of people watch playing that game

832
00:40:39,040 –> 00:40:43,120
Jeremy: on youtube i don’t even play the game i can’t handle it so

833
00:40:42,381 –> 00:40:43,381
Matt: you know it’s and

834
00:40:44,301 –> 00:40:45,301
Matt: go ahead

835
00:40:45,840 –> 00:40:49,440
Jeremy: oh i was just like i would just wanted to kind of come in come towards the end

836
00:40:49,600 –> 00:40:53,920
Jeremy: here i wanted it to bring up there was a really good kind of then there’s a on

837
00:40:54,080 –> 00:40:58,480
Jeremy: cage side there’s a kind of a they take some quotes from it a interview with

838
00:40:58,480 –> 00:41:01,840
Jeremy: kenny omega where he talks about the whole cody situation quite a bit and i

839
00:41:01,920 –> 00:41:04,320
Jeremy: thought it was really interesting and they kind of talk about how like

840
00:41:04,560 –> 00:41:09,120
Jeremy: professionally they were really you know they were everything was good there uh

841
00:41:09,340 –> 00:41:10,340
Jeremy: but like they didn’t really

842
00:41:09,941 –> 00:41:10,941
843
00:41:10,400 –> 00:41:12,560
Jeremy: have much of a personal relationship him

844
00:41:12,181 –> 00:41:13,181
845
00:41:12,640 –> 00:41:17,520
Jeremy: and i was like and omega said he’s not the type of person that i you know after

846
00:41:17,680 –> 00:41:22,080
Jeremy: the show i would go get a di pepsi with and so i got to really say i got to

847
00:41:22,160 –> 00:41:27,920
Jeremy: really question kennya now going for dippy know he straight edge totally fine

848
00:41:28,000 –> 00:41:33,360
Jeremy: with that i just like di pepsi is complete trash and it’s so terrible

849
00:41:31,761 –> 00:41:35,361
Matt: yeah this pet pepsi pepsi in general is just garbage

850
00:41:36,721 –> 00:41:40,801
Matt: sorry to everyone in the second city that thinks it’s the holy grail of soft

851
00:41:40,881 –> 00:41:42,881
Matt: drinks but you’re all wrong

852
00:41:44,000 –> 00:41:48,800
Jeremy: or in north carolina cause there’s a lot of north carolina uh pepsi fans there so

853
00:41:48,721 –> 00:41:50,161
Matt: yeah no i

854
00:41:50,100 –> 00:41:51,100
855
00:41:50,641 –> 00:41:52,481
Matt: i i i did enjoy that that

856
00:41:53,681 –> 00:41:59,281
Matt: that whole response that he gave i found it i found it interesting because i and

857
00:41:59,841 –> 00:42:05,201
Matt: you know it it may just be that when it’s coming from an actual wrestler i do try

858
00:42:05,361 –> 00:42:07,041
Matt: to read between some of the lines

859
00:42:08,321 –> 00:42:14,081
Matt: he basically seemed like he was saying we started this one way and now we’ve all

860
00:42:14,241 –> 00:42:20,721
Matt: lost creative control to tony and cody is just the most not okay with it is how i

861
00:42:20,881 –> 00:42:22,801
Matt: read a lot of that um

862
00:42:23,140 –> 00:42:24,140
863
00:42:24,001 –> 00:42:28,561
Matt: it it sort of seemed like he basically said like you know me and the young bucks

864
00:42:28,641 –> 00:42:33,521
Matt: are here for the long haul like we we wouldn’t just jump ship and go over there

865
00:42:34,801 –> 00:42:40,001
Matt: but he he himself didn’t necessarily seem like he was terribly thrilled with all

866
00:42:40,081 –> 00:42:44,161
Matt: of their creative control being like actively taken from them

867
00:42:45,700 –> 00:42:46,700
868
00:42:46,641 –> 00:42:48,001
Matt: right yeah i agree

869
00:42:46,960 –> 00:42:52,240
Jeremy: and i i do you know on one hand it was it it was its own thing but he did to talk

870
00:42:52,320 –> 00:42:55,680
Jeremy: about how like they had their own like different programs and stuff going on and

871
00:42:55,760 –> 00:42:59,840
Jeremy: cody was over there in the cody verse is what they said what he said and

872
00:43:01,040 –> 00:43:04,080
Jeremy: you know those first few months of shows there were some great

873
00:43:04,021 –> 00:43:05,021
874
00:43:04,320 –> 00:43:06,800
Jeremy: shows like that very first one but then there was just it was just

875
00:43:06,461 –> 00:43:07,461
Matt: it was

876
00:43:06,880 –> 00:43:11,440
Jeremy: wildly inconsistent until kind of like what into some point in twenty twenty

877
00:43:11,300 –> 00:43:12,300
878
00:43:13,360 –> 00:43:15,200
Jeremy: tk i guess took complete control

879
00:43:15,780 –> 00:43:16,780
880
00:43:16,561 –> 00:43:18,721
Matt: yeah i don’t know i think it’s better

881
00:43:17,040 –> 00:43:20,080
Jeremy: i don’t know i think it is better for for all of that but

882
00:43:19,621 –> 00:43:20,621
883
00:43:21,840 –> 00:43:26,480
Jeremy: it’s uh you know i can see how that could be uh disappointing uh but on the other

884
00:43:26,300 –> 00:43:27,300
Jeremy: hand you

885
00:43:26,501 –> 00:43:27,501
886
00:43:26,960 –> 00:43:29,520
Jeremy: know tony kana is putting up all the money so

887
00:43:30,001 –> 00:43:36,801
Matt: yeah oh i i think that and i i’ve pointed it out a handful of times that

888
00:43:38,881 –> 00:43:43,521
Matt: it’s just like wb it’s when when one guy at the top is making all the creative

889
00:43:43,601 –> 00:43:46,081
Matt: decisions its repetition you see

890
00:43:45,860 –> 00:43:46,860
891
00:43:46,401 –> 00:43:51,921
Matt: a lot of the same match finishes and you see the majority of these feuds just go

892
00:43:52,081 –> 00:43:53,761
Matt: through the same progressions and

893
00:43:55,461 –> 00:43:56,461
Matt: i don’t know i

894
00:43:57,761 –> 00:44:00,401
Matt: i i like the idea of having more voices at the table

895
00:44:01,441 –> 00:44:06,561
Matt: here’s hoping that control your narrative is a wildly successful promotion

896
00:44:08,081 –> 00:44:12,881
Matt: i’ still i’m still convinced that that’s where cody’s going that ec three and

897
00:44:13,441 –> 00:44:18,801
Matt: formerly stroman now adam she have teamed up with cody used his connections to

898
00:44:18,881 –> 00:44:19,921
Matt: get their tv deal

899
00:44:21,281 –> 00:44:26,241
Matt: and they’re just gonna it’s the only way he’ll have creative control somewhere so

900
00:44:27,041 –> 00:44:28,081
Matt: i don’t know that would be

901
00:44:27,780 –> 00:44:28,780
902
00:44:28,161 –> 00:44:29,601
Matt: fun funny for the

903
00:44:31,201 –> 00:44:32,401
Matt: i’m excited for that

904
00:44:31,440 –> 00:44:35,680
Jeremy: i mean people were talking about people were talking about the fact that that

905
00:44:37,120 –> 00:44:41,840
Jeremy: that uh dusty did the same same thing well you go somewhere you would have some

906
00:44:42,000 –> 00:44:46,640
Jeremy: degree of booking power he would lose a said booking power and then he would

907
00:44:46,720 –> 00:44:50,000
Jeremy: go somewhere where he had even less booking power but then he got a whole bunch

908
00:44:46,721 –> 00:44:49,201
Matt: minutes we get less know

909
00:44:50,000 –> 00:44:53,200
Jeremy: of money and then he would start to cycle over again so

910
00:44:53,141 –> 00:44:54,141
911
00:44:53,360 –> 00:44:58,560
Jeremy: wwe could be a very short term run in this and you know maybe one ring of honor

912
00:44:58,640 –> 00:45:01,680
Jeremy: gets back off the ground but i think that would be a better idea i think break

913
00:45:01,920 –> 00:45:06,720
Jeremy: that cycle that your dad dad created and and just go like hey like r a runner

914
00:45:06,720 –> 00:45:10,880
Jeremy: i’ll be your head booker a spot that marty scr very briefly just

915
00:45:14,980 –> 00:45:15,980
916
00:45:15,461 –> 00:45:16,461
917
00:45:16,740 –> 00:45:17,740
918
00:45:17,440 –> 00:45:22,400
Jeremy: occupied before you know the pandemic and then other things um so

919
00:45:17,621 –> 00:45:18,621
Matt: uh occupying

920
00:45:22,261 –> 00:45:23,261
921
00:45:23,040 –> 00:45:28,480
Jeremy: you know it’s it i feel like he could go there he could work with ec three

922
00:45:29,200 –> 00:45:33,680
Jeremy: there’s a lot of things you could do but i guess he’s going to wwe the biggest

923
00:45:33,260 –> 00:45:34,260
924
00:45:33,381 –> 00:45:34,381
925
00:45:34,000 –> 00:45:36,160
Jeremy: in that whole kenny omega thing which is like i hear

926
00:45:36,061 –> 00:45:37,061
Matt: i can read

927
00:45:36,240 –> 00:45:40,240
Jeremy: he’s on a flight to saudi arabia like that was the biggest like burn there um

928
00:45:42,400 –> 00:45:47,200
Jeremy: so uh it which also clearly says what kenny omega thinks about wb at the same

929
00:45:46,980 –> 00:45:47,980
Jeremy: time so

930
00:45:47,461 –> 00:45:48,461
931
00:45:47,740 –> 00:45:48,740
Jeremy: so yeah

932
00:45:49,221 –> 00:45:50,221
Matt: yeah they’re

933
00:45:49,780 –> 00:45:50,780
934
00:45:50,001 –> 00:45:52,561
Matt: they’re so soulless corporation

935
00:45:54,320 –> 00:45:57,360
Jeremy: well let’s wrap it up here what what should everybody do

936
00:45:58,401 –> 00:46:03,121
Matt: like subscribe bring the bell share tell everybody you know to listen to us

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Matt: ramble on a weekly basis

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Matt: tune in to all your favorite wrestling shows because again even when it’s bad you

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Matt: still get the moments

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Matt: and we will see you next week

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Matt: uh when we will discuss

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Matt: my time at

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Matt: raw probably i don’t

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Matt: i don’t know that there’s there’s not a whole lot of big things on the on the

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Matt: docket for this week outside of the uh the ziggler champa match so

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Matt: we’ll see what happens

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Jeremy: yeah all right see you then