Rebel Heart
We recap a lot here, but that’s not what’s important. We want to say thank you to Johnny Gargano, Kyle O’Reilly and Beth Phoenix. No matter where the future takes you, thank you for everything you’ve given to the Black and Gold and to us as fans. #blackandgoldforever
Transcript (made by robots)
00:00.00
Jeremy
So what I was going to say this is our second time trying to record here. Ah, we’re going to just call this episode rebel heart and did you get a chance to finish watching war games I know you had to break it up.
00:08.43
Matt
Um I I didn’t um I ran into some traffic coming home from the hospital. So that’s the the the men’s match is the only thing I haven’t seen. Um.
00:18.43
Jeremy
Um, okay, well, there’s there’ll be a little bit of spoilers here. But you know we got we got Johnny gargano ah kind of finished with the way. Ah, which you know tonight or it might be his swan song this this ah war games never been in a war games. Ah, they they did champa and gargano did the glorious bomb on social media 1 more time not with rood but you know ah with other people in the background and ah we got rebel heart as a entrance music kind of 1 last time and and like ah his gear was an homage to like. All his Takeover year over gears from over the years so I I think it’s um I don’t know they’re really leaning into it and they went with a like it almost would be a huge swerve if if you know he did resign and you know he’s going to promise to to. Tell you everything on Tuesday so who knows who knows what that’s that’s going to be about, but it’s ah it was a good Match. It was a great match. Ah we had some some nice diy moments and ah I’m excited for you to get a chance to watch it I mean to to me nxt and I I will I’ll stop dominating this conversation here. But it for me. It’s always been in ah gargano and champa. That’s what drew me in that’s what kept me going um and keep me coming back for it.
01:45.43
Matt
Yeah, the ah the only reason I’m not um I’m not convinced. He’s leaving is the you know I’ll see you on Tuesday to tell you everything thing. Um because it’s it would be a little weird for them to devote. Um.
01:54.35
Jeremy
Yeah.
02:02.76
Matt
You know Postwar games to devote more tv time to him if he was leaving anyway. Ah so that was a little weird. Um, at that that’s the only reason I’m not just immediately like oh yeah, he’s on his way out the damn door. Um, everybody kind of saying bye to him on social media sort of hints that his decision was made.
02:05.34
Jeremy
Um, yeah.
02:18.39
Jeremy
Um.
02:22.74
Matt
But um I think it might be a work I think he’s staying.
02:24.76
Jeremy
The the argument for the fact that it’s not a work is like the kind of the moxley. Ah you know the dean ambrose like you know Shield special. They did you know on his way out the door like that’s that’s the 1 thing and if and if anything that sos maybe like cole he.
02:33.88
Matt
Um, that’s that’s true. Yeah.
02:42.62
Jeremy
Doing an exceptional job about not burning bridges and leaving um and and I think I guess in 1 of the rumors I saw that like the ww people are happy with the fact that he’s gotten other talent over like as well as he has over his time in nxt and if there’s nothing else like. His time and in nxt has been a success for the company and then they’re grateful for it. So um, you know the work. He’s done with theory and in ah dexter loomis and and all those other other talents kind of over the years it’s been been ah been quite a big success I think so.
03:03.97
Matt
Um, yeah.
03:16.30
Matt
That that’s true I guess given him a swan song after he um took took Austin Theory under his wing when he had to come back to nxt and got him to where he is because I I vince definitely Sees Austin Theory as a ah a big time thing. Um, so it’s.
03:22.92
Jeremy
Yeah.
03:32.70
Jeremy
Yeah.
03:35.66
Matt
Yeah, maybe he gets you know ten minutes a tv time to thank everybody? Um, as a kind of a thank you for for getting vince’s next big thing over. But.
03:38.26
Jeremy
Yeah. Um, and I also could think even if he even if he signs or not I almost can kind of think like he might just take some time off like with with candace being pregnant and stuff like that and like you know he might take time off, he might.
03:52.30
Matt
Yeah.
04:00.40
Jeremy
You know candace has to go back to w to b at some point when she’s done with her maternity leave. So maybe he’s you know, stay at home dad for a little bit and stuff and you know maybe we don’t see him until like the beginning of 2023 maybe he does take like a good solid year off. So.
04:12.84
Matt
Yeah, um, what? what did you? Ah did you glean from the the Kyla Riley ending because I kind of got the impression that he’s on his way out the door too.
04:24.64
Jeremy
Yeah I feel like I was going into war games I was let let’s just talk about this match First this like you the war games matches are always great. They’re always fantastic I haven’t watched a bad 1 blood and guts was also good the same type of match i. Thought that men’s tag match against imperium was the match of the night. Ah, even with the the good like you know, tugging on the heartstrings moments they had in the and the men’s wargains match with with Jary gun and againo specifically. Um I forget the big dude that kyle’s partners with.
05:01.36
Matt
I Just the the living Cave man I couldn’t tell you what his name is but that that’s yeah yeah.
05:03.40
Jeremy
What his name is yeah, reject from a Geico commercial. Um I you know and it doesn’t matter because it’s it’s fabian. It’s fabian like stole the whole damn night like.
05:17.84
Matt
Yeah, yeah, he he is He is just there’s there’s no other way to put it. He is super human um ah a guy that’s built like him should not be able to do half the shit he pulled off in that match when he sprang off.
05:20.66
Jeremy
Last night. Yeah, um.
05:36.88
Matt
The the 2 ropes to hit that boon salt like I law I I was sitting in the waiting room at the hospital and I I like I popped in the chair that I was sitting in um, like he’s he’s super human. It’s it’s absolutely nuts that match was incredible. Um. Honestly when I and I I told you over text when I finished that women’s match because they absolutely beat the hell out of each other and it was amazing. We’ll give it ah a couple of minutes here in a second I didn’t I didn’t know I thought this tag match had been stuck in like a really bad spot and like nothing was going to I don’t know. I thought everything was doomed like following that lead in um and they they tore it down I mean that I haven’t watched the men’s match yet. But like that that tag match was something something truly special.
06:25.37
Jeremy
Yeah I wouldn’t say the war games is my is the man’s war games match is my favorite war games match. Ah, but it’s it was up there. Um, but yeah again, tag Match steals a show some of those some of those aerial moves he was doing and just.
06:39.36
Matt
Um, yeah.
06:44.65
Jeremy
Just the sheer power of the dude like I don’t know he just he kills and I know and you know kyle and the big caveman dude they do you know it’s ah it’s a great Match. It’s a good match. Um, they are unsuccessful and caveman turns on kyle o’reilly which kyle riley. Quickly puts puts to rest like he doesn’t like no this is not what what’s going to happen. But we’re going to get a match on Tuesday in the cage ah kyle o’reilly versus big cap man dude.
07:13.74
Matt
Oh see I thought I thought Kyler Riley got his God is I’m out of here moment when he leaned down and hit him with the hit him with the undisputed Era I Thought oh yeah, oh shit here it comes I Hope the bucks are ready for it.
07:21.73
Jeremy
Yeah.
07:30.34
Jeremy
No, so so but I think what it so I still believe he’s on his way out I think he’s doing the classic going out on his back you know, putting over a new talent. Um in this cage match which I think is yeah again, a good use. Ah good use of him.
07:38.86
Matt
Um, yeah.
07:45.69
Jeremy
Ah, it would be a surprise you know I was kind of going into this not knowing kind of where he’s going. But ah I do don’t think there’s a ah future for Kyle on the main roster. So and I don’t think you know there’s certain people that just need to be they need to be on larger stages and and a w will provide that.
07:53.63
Matt
Now.
08:03.60
Matt
Yeah.
08:05.50
Jeremy
Um, it’s going to feel weird if Kyle and Gargano do end up going to ew because it’s just going to at some point it just feels feeling like it’s old black and gold at the same at some point. So.
08:13.28
Matt
Um, it Yeah, it’s with with the exception of champa it it is going to be everybody that well I guess Gable um is probably the only exception and he’s he’s doing pretty well on the main ross I mean not like winning championships or anything but he gets Tv time.
08:22.80
Jeremy
Um, yeah.
08:30.79
Jeremy
Yeah.
08:32.90
Matt
Ah, but yeah and I you know I I listened to to a bunch of the podcasts that adam cole did and the crazy thing is that when Adam cole turned up at all out. He said that was the first time in his career that he worked somewhere that kylo riley didn’t work.
08:49.91
Jeremy
Um, yeah.
08:52.16
Matt
Um, that I mean their first match the first match he ever put on in front of a crowd was against kylo o’reilly like their careers have basically run side by side since he started. So yeah, it. It would be a little weird for him not to not to jump ship. Especially I mean his longtime tag partner. Is is already doing well over there so we can get red Dragon back. Um I’m I’m excited to see what they do with him because he’s I mean he’s he’s a star. Ah, it’s easy to get overshadowed when you’re in a you’re in a faction and you’re standing next to adam cole. Um. But he I mean he’s a star. His promo work is great, um, him him turning the the belt into a guitar on his way to the ring is awesome. So we need to get a bell taught him? Um, but yeah i.
09:39.49
Jeremy
1 so brian danielson recently interview saying that 1 of his goals in aew is he wants to he wants to have a faction and wants to start a faction have 1 now we kind of think adam cole like what if there is a war adam cole and kyle riley are not on the same side. And ah we have american red dragon. Yeah yeah.
10:03.25
Matt
I’m I’m down for it because like american red dragon against super click just take take my money and tell me where I’ve got to fly to um, that’s that’s too much awesomeness in 1 rank.
10:14.71
Jeremy
Yeah I didn’t come by. There’s someone on Reddit suggested that and it was like that would be amazing and I would be all for that and that’s what I would like to see like you can do what Adam cole like Red Dragon reunion you know, undisputed reunion at some point later down the line. But.
10:31.60
Matt
That I think that would be the match that I would finally go to new york for a show for because up until now it’s it’s it’s cost prohibitive to go to anything in New York city um I think I would find a way to make that even if it was just I fly into jfk.
10:31.68
Jeremy
Now that’s it’s like that’s that’s what needs to happen.
10:44.15
Jeremy
Right.
10:51.43
Matt
Trained to the arena and then I fly the hell home as soon as the show ends and don’t see any of New York Other than the inside of a train. Um, yeah.
10:51.55
Jeremy
Minute.
10:58.13
Jeremy
Yeah man. So ah, we got. We got that going on. Let’s talk about the other matchess before we get to the the women’s war gains match. Um, we had let’s the 1 without a championship we had ah Duke hudson versus. Cameron grimes hair versus hair match I 1 thing I did like about this match I like the fact that they used that second ring. Do just go ahead and have a barbage chair just set up there like I thought that was pretty cool instead of having them to bring in it in something. It’s just like it’s already. There’s already had another ring right here. Let’s do it? Um, ah.
11:31.73
Matt
Yeah, that that in the the way the War games cages were staged like they they did a very good job of maximizing the space that they have in that tiny building.
11:41.70
Jeremy
Right? Um, you know I I felt like this match could have just been a and ah a Wednesday sorry a tuesday night match I didn’t think it and then needed to be on this card at all like you could have cut this match I love cameron grimes. Love everything about him. But. Ah, didn’t need to be there like I feel like it wasn’t but I feel like the the next match could have been a cool could have been considered the cool down match that you needed before that that men’s war games Match. Um.
12:13.18
Matt
I I think the only reason this ended up on the war game show instead of a Wednesday night is because Duke hudson was kind of the odd man out of their 2 point zero gang. Um, so they had to find a way to get him on this show.
12:24.45
Jeremy
Ah.
12:30.83
Matt
Because if this if this literally was like say goodbye to the black and gold guys. This is our new crop. Um, they had they had to do something I thought it I thought it was a little weird. They didn’t find anywhere on this this card for um.
12:39.61
Jeremy
Um, yeah.
12:47.53
Matt
Like I mean aside from a backstage promo Any of the Legato Del Phantasma guys. Um, because they’re they’re great and I would have thought there was a place for them somewhere here. Um, then again I’d.
12:51.40
Jeremy
Yeah.
13:02.74
Matt
I don’t know I think that I’m still sour on the whole idea that Joe gacy had a fucking cruiser weight title match. Um.
13:09.42
Jeremy
Well, let’s so let’s get to that so so cra and grimes kept his hair. All’s right in the world I don’t like this poker player gimmick I think it’s like Half baked. So let’s let’s move on to another gimmick. That’s they’ve at least spent more time on it. But I hate it Joe casey. Ah, versus cruiser weight champion. Ah roderick strong where if Joe case he wins the championship. Ah he will turn it into the all inlusive championship which probably meant you know, just the 2 of 5 championships. It’s gonna the cruiser way. Championships is going to go away like real fast ah completely disappear. Um, you know. For as much as we we both kind of talked about how we dislike this gimmick. Um, and I think I was reading cageside thing the other day too. It was talking about how you know it’s it’s like poking fun at the left or whatever but there’s no kind of like anything on the other side either like that that really w w’s ever done so that.
14:01.21
Matt
Um, yeah.
14:05.36
Jeremy
That’s maybe that’s why it feels like distasteful um and knowing kind of the mcmahon ah politics and all that. But ah, we’re and we’re not a political show here but moving on from that is’ just kind of I don’t know kind of lame and and I think Ben beth phoenix pointed out. He just uses buzzwords. Ah, but he doesn’t like I don’t know believe in anything he says um.
14:26.19
Matt
The the strangest thing about the entire gimmick to me is unless he’s just not developing real well ah parker who has been hailed by guys even as high up as paul heyman as the next brock lesner. Just stands around behind this guy like that’s the most perplexing thing like if you’ve got paul hayman saying that this dude is he’s brock lesnor 2 point zero like which fits entirely into the narrative of nx t 2 point Zero.
14:46.81
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah.
15:03.33
Matt
Why aren’t we showcasing this guy. Um I feel like I’ve I’ve talked till I’m blue in the face about the the Joe gacy gimmick um, and if if he had taken this belt and you know.
15:10.88
Jeremy
Yeah.
15:18.63
Matt
It became like ah a casted by the wayside thing or if they just did away with the cruiser weight belt in general. It really would be such a damn disservice to all of these guys that are so good. Um I really I would love to see them actually pay a little more attention.
15:29.00
Jeremy
Yeah.
15:37.40
Matt
To this belt like Roderick strong should appear on a smackdown and chad gable have a match with Chad gaable for this thing or because there there are still so many of these like incredible talents that are the smaller guys. They’re they’re not going to get ah a coee level push at any point in in vince’s new scheme for what what? the the company is but there’s so many things you can still do with this belt like it and I don’t know I’m still pissed that they they took a steamer.
16:08.11
Jeremy
Um, yeah.
16:12.46
Matt
On two zero five live like ah the the day that odyssey jones had a match on 2 Oh five live I thought well that this 1 ne’s done
16:20.61
Jeremy
Well and speaking of steamers did you happen to see that weird as commercial that they ran in the middle of it with the fancy jacket. Dude he ate a bunch of food and they he took a dump like it showed him in the in the bathroom like I don’t know and then he took a like a.
16:28.29
Matt
Um I. That.
16:40.40
Jeremy
Selfie recorded video like of himself on the toilet like afterwards it was so strange.
16:41.45
Matt
I I on takeovers I like to watch them the next day because I like to to skip all the wasted time. Um, so that that must have gotten missed I did think it was weird now that they have paired him with um ah the the.
16:48.76
Jeremy
Yeah.
17:00.74
Jeremy
Yeah, um, oh man now I can’t remember now the you said that Ka she the yeah.
17:01.15
Matt
Marty Mcfly guy. Um the hell was his name Kushita um like where was he in those promos like like is is Kashita on the chopping block already. Um.
17:13.60
Jeremy
Thankfully not in it because I wouldn’t want to be in it. No.
17:19.58
Matt
But like I thought that was a little weird. Um, they keep doing these videos for those those 2 like Redneck bar fight guys. But they’re never actually on tv which is a little strange but I I must have missed. Um jiro taken a.
17:29.86
Jeremy
You know.
17:37.14
Matt
Taking a shit on Tv do.
17:38.32
Jeremy
You didn’t really miss it I missed it actually and then some someone posted it online was like oh this is what I missed like I I think I must have got up to to like I don’t know do anything else like during the month because it was just in the the the jump of all those commercials and they’re running between every match now. Um.
17:49.11
Matt
Yeah, and yeah.
17:57.87
Jeremy
So like what do we have? Next we had the women’s war games Match. We started off the show which I’m thankful for because like I was coming from dune that just ended at 5 o’clock so all the entrances filled I like I got there when the bell rang so it’s still still worked out. Um. I liked the fact that they had the cages um, kind of above and you could see them kind of in when they had that wide camera you could see them in the back which I thought was cool like because we were worried that maybe because they’d run out of space that they would have to put them backstage so it wouldn’t wouldn’t be as ah. Is interesting but I like I thought that was a good good cool placement. They had to kind of run down through the crowd to get into the match. So yeah.
18:39.33
Matt
Yeah, that this match was nuts I loved every minute of this damn thing. Um and and hats off to to both caylee ray and dakota kai because they took some bumps in this thing that like. I mean they were they I cringed a couple of times they were on like Nick gage level. Um I mean dakota kai in the in the trash can getting thrown around like darby in a body bag that nuts. Um, and then. Eo shiri kicking the the medical trainers away from the the cage shutting the door and then popping corra jade’s arm back into place so she could finish the match whoever but unless she’s actually hurt and like eo was like.
19:17.49
Jeremy
Um, oh yeah.
19:25.21
Jeremy
Ah, oh I don’t think so.
19:31.87
Matt
Eo was like I can fix this thing. Um which I didn’t think so either. But who ever booked this match like they they deserve a damn emmy like that was every every ounce of this match was brilliant and I I Love The only thing that I can say was was detrimental. Was at the end when everybody got knocked down. It took her so damn long to decide to go for that Pin. There’s no way anybody didn’t kick out of that. Ah I could only suspend disbelief for so Long. Ah.
19:59.50
Jeremy
Yeah, but I.
20:05.83
Matt
But other than that this match was nuts and I absolutely loved it. Yeah.
20:09.53
Jeremy
I think you know what core Jade’s only like 20 I think you know she hasn’t been training that long. So I think the way they they went with that injury angle with a shoulder and all that it was like an excellent way of of protecting her in this match because this is ah this is a big deal match like to be in. And it’s a real tough match to be in for no matter if you’ve been doing this for 20 years so the fact that you know they did a believable angle to like protect her in that cage. Um I thought was a.
20:37.85
Matt
Yeah.
20:44.40
Jeremy
Fantastic move. So whoever produced these match this match I don’t know you’re you’re right? just throw all their words at them that some slammys And yeah, yeah.
20:48.14
Matt
Yeah, it’s good. It was. It was amazing like and they must think extremely highly of her to have put her in here and put her in a spot where they could protect her like that because I mean you’ve got you’ve got x Ninja warrior winner cat and zaro just.
20:59.98
Jeremy
Um, yeah.
21:06.86
Matt
Not on tv um, who who probably could have done some really killer spots but they wanted to make sure she was the 1 that was in this match. So I’d I’d keep an eye on her because they they think very very highly of her. Um, but yeah, if she had tried to take.
21:19.27
Jeremy
Um, yeah.
21:24.70
Matt
As as you know green as I’m assuming she is at 20 if she tried to take some of those caylee ray bumps she probably dies during this match.
21:31.54
Jeremy
Yeah, um, before we jump on to dynamite whatever were is to take a quick pause here and we’ll be right back all right? So dynamite. Hope you enjoyed that commercial break for whatever I decided to put in there. Ah so you were there. You were there at dynamite.
21:54.25
Matt
I was I was I I was I was in Duluth lovely duluth georgia um, they kept calling that and and dasha even in the ring said for for tv purposes. We’re we’re going to refer to everything as atlanta. And the crowd went nuts like she probably got a bigger booth than cody did at any point. Um, when she said that and like I texted you like you can. There’s so many things that you could have called that Atlanta street fight like based on duluth.
22:17.51
Jeremy
Well.
22:32.40
Matt
Or we’re only a couple of Minutes from suwani you could have called it the suwani street fight like there’s a bunch to it. But yeah I mean that the show was great. Um I don’t watch dark or elevation but I was amazed to see like.
22:44.25
Jeremy
Um.
22:49.85
Matt
All the talents that do wrestle on those shows I mean I notice on the ticker sometimes um, but rather than than have a match in you know, but essentially like his his hometown Dustin was on elevation in a six
23:05.97
Jeremy
Um.
23:08.81
Matt
Six man tag I believe that 1 was he got to look really good in front of the the home crowd. Um, and I’m pretty sure lee johnson’s from atlanta too. So that may have that may have been just kind of a way to to make sure they both got to got a match on that card somewhere. Um.
23:16.67
Jeremy
Um, yeah, um.
23:27.16
Matt
Ah, the the Hollywood hunk and I think they’re called the pretty picture now. Um I’m not because they were they were ah waxed and vaxed for a while. Um and then they were they were hot Boy Summer and I think they’re called the pretty picture now. But um.
23:31.58
Jeremy
Um.
23:45.78
Matt
Those guys are great Caesar Bonani I’m I’m kind of surprised he hasn’t you know, moved further up cards. Um because he’s I mean he’s huge. Um, but yeah outside of dark and elevation. Um, you know, just a great show from them.
23:53.71
Jeremy
Um, right.
24:03.37
Matt
Ah, throughout the duration of of Wednesday we’ll refer to it as Friday when we get to rampage and I get to I get to geek out about my what? What was my match of the week until this morning. Ah, but but.
24:13.50
Jeremy
Um I I can’t believe we got a flaming table like what what is? what is Cody going to do the next time he comes to Atlanta. That’s the that’s the problem.
24:21.82
Matt
Um, I yeah I didn’t know if he was going to be able to to top some of the the crazy stuff he did in that um that cage match when they were at State farm. But yeah, um, going for the pinfall while still on fire.
24:32.10
Jeremy
Um, yeah.
24:40.28
Matt
Ah, it I’ve got to admit it. It definitely was a step a step further. Ah that match was great. Um I know it because I went back and watched pieces of it on on t and t and it sounded. Like he was getting booed a hell of a lot harder than he actually was in that building. Um, he got quite the pop inside the building I don’t I don’t know if maybe it was after the show went off the air. Um, because I couldn’t really tell where we were timeline wise.
25:00.76
Jeremy
Um.
25:16.40
Matt
Um, but yeah I mean he he got quite an ovation from that crowd. Um that that match was nuts um thought it was a oh no, that may have been that was dynamite the the. Jade or rampage the Jade cargill squash match. Um, the most surprising thing I think was the pop that wardlow got um, those people went nut went absolutely nuts for wardlow. Um.
25:34.57
Jeremy
Um, yeah.
25:44.51
Jeremy
Um, oh yeah.
25:52.40
Matt
And wordload no and he just like ate it up man I’m pretty sure they gave him like a forty five second spot there and the crowd went so nuts that he just kept slamming that guy every time they 1 more timed he was like all right? Let’s do it.
25:53.59
Jeremy
He’s not from there. Yeah.
25:59.43
Jeremy
So.
26:09.10
Jeremy
I.
26:11.10
Matt
Ah, because at 1 point even sean speareers was like come on. We got to get we got to get the hell out of here. Um, yeah I I don’t know what that guy did to deserve any of that but wardlow got a hell of a pop which I liked because I you know I would like to see him get a bit of a singles push you know soon.
26:27.19
Jeremy
I mean maybe there was a good chant chun of people that were at that state farm show like last time that we’re there in Atlanta and and he was I remember him because up until that point he really didn’t have any Matt he might have had some matches on dark or something.
26:29.50
Matt
Um, yeah.
26:39.19
Matt
Yeah.
26:43.41
Jeremy
But he didn’t really have much at all and and to be that big match with Cody and you know both of them delivered. Yeah, so maybe just people remembering that like from and then we’re there at stay Farm possibly? yeah.
26:45.59
Matt
Um, yeah, he showed out. Yeah, um, it’s a possibility it it it further um it just just makes it worse knowing that. At some point soon I’m going to have to watch punk go over him? Um, but I’ll find a new way to shit on punk every week oh tip for dynamite goers dynamite slash rampage whichever show you’re at. If you want to go to concessions and not have to stand in line at all wait until that first note of cult of personality hits. You can just walk right up and get whatever the hell you want I was the only person in the concourse area that wasn’t an employee of the Arena. Ah. It was absolutely Nuts. Um, but yeah, that’s that’s where I’m at on this punk thing. Um that I went and got a hot dog.
27:44.58
Jeremy
I thought I thought like in during wrestlemania like when we went in new orleans I forget which number that is now. Ah but 34 but either way, um, my whole plan was like okay when we hear the Undertaker gong I’m going to go concessions. Go the restroom and stuff or this like.
27:53.73
Matt
Um, I think so yeah.
28:04.90
Jeremy
Long ass wrestlemania because that Superdome is a nightmare. Um and I was right there was like no 1 there like no lines but then that match with john cena like I was only gone for four minutes and it was everything was done because it was a squash. Ah so.
28:15.71
Matt
Um.
28:22.70
Jeremy
A random note here. There was a there’s a Kevin hart like it’s sponsored by like old spice or something but like where they sit in like ah um, like tubs full ice and they talk about things. The woman with undertakers charming and he doesn’t isn’t wearing some kind of political t-shirt that like ah makes me angry. And it’s just nice and like he talks about how his like daughter like loves john cena and it was like really she was really mad at him for like like beating him. Um, and ah it was I know really fun I actually do recommend that.
28:52.47
Matt
So so I’ll have to find that because I haven’t seen it but speaking of the undertaker that actually is ah a wonderful segue. Um, because I got to see Billy gun wrestle sting. It ended up being a tag match. Did you know.
29:05.45
Jeremy
Oh he asked.
29:10.40
Matt
That billy gunn is 2 years older than the Undertaker billy gun and sting both broke into pro wrestling in 1980 five so like their careers have run you know side by side. Um, they are both older than the undertaker.
29:13.88
Jeremy
I did not know but he looks amazing.
29:29.41
Matt
And Billy Gunn still looks like that and puts on a show. Um like he you would you’d never know it Hell I So when he was like in charge of the match and like on top. Yeah I was in the attitude Era again man.
29:37.80
Jeremy
Um, yeah.
29:45.14
Jeremy
Um, yeah.
29:46.84
Matt
He hit that crotch chop and I like I teleported back to dx days. Ah yeah, it I I couldn’t believe it when I you sent me that Reddit thing this morning about interesting interesting tidbits about wrestlers and it was like billy gun is older than the undertaker. The holysh.
30:04.97
Jeremy
Um, Wow Yeah, um, any other kind of highlights from the from the show.
30:06.72
Matt
Ah, yeah.
30:12.96
Matt
There was so much that happened I It got a little late and I powered through for rampage and I’m glad I did um, aside from Cody setting on fire which sort of like the the whole rest of the show became a bit of a blur.
30:30.25
Jeremy
Um.
30:31.95
Matt
Um, at that point. Um I mean it was a good show I had a I had a good time. Um it I I enjoyed being there early to see some of the dark matches. Um, it was a little strange but I guess when they’re they’re trying to do this much content. Um, dark matches are only like. 2 and a half three minutes long. Um some of them including entrances that 6 man tag Match. It took them longer to get to the ring than the match lasted ah but which was a little weird but you do get to see you get to see a lot more of the talent when you’re like.
30:52.31
Jeremy
Yeah.
31:00.62
Jeremy
Um, now.
31:09.32
Matt
I Guess if you watch dark you see it. But if you if you do go to the shows go a little early catch some of it I mean I got to see rijo. Um, there was a strange match with um Abadon and bunny. Were on opposite tag teams and they were paired with 2 2 Asian wrestlers who I was not at all familiar with um and the abad on pairing was was super strange. Um, like even I know they’re they’re supposed to play up that she’s creepy and like I told you um.
31:37.00
Jeremy
Um.
31:45.54
Matt
Forget that she exists and then I don’t sleep well for a few days after I’m reminded um but her partner even seemed legitimately scared to like tag in so that that was ah a weird match. But um, yeah I enjoyed it a lot. Um I think on the whole.
31:47.70
Jeremy
Um.
32:03.42
Matt
Outside of ah outside of Cody setting on fire and that that street fight being pretty damn cool. Ramp Rampage was great.
32:06.77
Jeremy
Know all right? Well then we had tony nies versus samy guvara for the t and t championship which was your I guess your second favorite match of the week um it was it was a pretty great match. It’s it’s kind of sucks on 1 level that nice comes in.
32:18.65
Matt
Um, it was it it.
32:26.59
Jeremy
I Know he said again, some dark matches some dark elevation matches as ah as a tune up and and he was undefeated going into the match. But um, ah you know sucks that he ah he loot lost but he lost in a in I don’t know there no fault to him. He.
32:42.79
Matt
Yeah, yeah, and they sammy took a beating in this 1 and tony niece put on an absolute clinic I mean he looked like a million bucks from the time the bell rang um I mean sammy pulled off the win I was it a roll up.
32:45.12
Jeremy
Definitely took sammy to the limit there.
33:01.99
Matt
I’m pretty sure it was a roll up. But um I was I was kind of okay with it depending on you know because if if niece comes out on dynamite this week and is like you know you you barely and though we get another 1 I’m I’m happy with it. But yeah, it.
33:02.40
Jeremy
Um, um, yeah I think so own. Yeah yeah.
33:16.34
Jeremy
Um.
33:21.86
Matt
That match was fantastic. Ah, Niece is sort of like eichner. Um, there’s no no reason why he’s able to do half the crap that he does. But yeah, that match was great. Had had the imperium tag match not existed. It would have been my match of the week still um but it was awesome I like I said I got a we got a jade cargill squash match which I still I don’t understand why these still happen. Um, you have established that she is she is your you know your she’s your nia jacks we get it. Um. And then we got we got the the death Triangle ah sands phoenix so it was ah penta and pac against Ftr. Ah ftr that are just completely milk in the seventy s porn thing. Um. But I guess in a wrestling world that doesn’t have Joey ryan anymore that gimmick was just wide ass open. So I’m glad somebody’s running with it that might not get me to in the next week ah
34:25.69
Jeremy
Ah, well and then phoenix is not injured as much as commentary was trying to to play up but it it worked in the story and he just had travel issues and stuff and they they had to be in Mexico on on ah on Saturday so.
34:36.19
Matt
Um, yeah I thought I caught that that at some point they said that he was hurt but during the backstage promo they said he couldn’t be there for travel issues I was like you got you but like.
34:52.60
Jeremy
Um, yeah, yeah.
34:53.11
Matt
Stay on script Remember what the deal was but yeah, and then I saw that they are fdr retained. Um I I think it it didn’t fit their narrative as much with with omega just you know having to to give the belt away.
34:59.76
Jeremy
Which is crazy which is not what I was expecting.
35:07.14
Jeremy
Um, yeah.
35:10.57
Matt
Um, so next time it’ll probably be probably be somebody’s time to take those belts from our our Seventy s porn stars here but in the meantime it just it just adds to their gimmick because they’re they’re so bad ass I love those guys.
35:25.49
Jeremy
Right? Well we have ah winters coming coming up in ah, a week week and a half from now. Um, we build continue to build that danielson versus ah versus the dark order but ultimately leading to hangman but we got. Ah, Johnny hungey versus brian danison this week which I hope is a pretty damn good match I hope it lasts a little bit longer than some of these other ones have lasted um but it’s it’s I’m really excited about that.
35:52.19
Matt
Ah, that was the match that I forgot um Silver got to look fantastic before he before he got his head kicked in. Um I’m I’m or no Alllan Angels not Silver Allen Angels Um I Really like that guy.
35:59.76
Jeremy
Oh right? Yeah yeah.
36:11.82
Matt
Ah, and talk about pops. Um that that building went nuts for him. Um, yeah, which was was also a cool thing to learn. Um, but yeah, he got a lot of love from the home crowd. Um, and.
36:17.21
Jeremy
Um, yeah in the building he graduated from high school in.
36:30.77
Matt
When they went to commercial afterwards and he was going up the ramp. They let him like bow and like that that place went nuts for him so that was cool to see.
36:33.63
Jeremy
Um, yeah, well, um, yeah, so we got the winners coming coming up I’m excited to see what happens on nxt with with both I want to see own to hear what gar grao has to say I’m I might actually try to. Turn tune in live which I normally never do I normally just watch hulu the next day. Um, but I I do kind of want to know what is what Gargano’s next move is or at least what he’s telling in at Nxt. Obviously if he’s if he is going to try to go to aw he’s not going to be like cash me on wednesdays now. Um. Which would be amazing if somehow he did do but ah yeah, I’m I’m really looking forward to to Tuesday I want to see what happens kyle o’reilly um and kind of see what just you know the ah the vibe going forward with with an x t is going to be so.
37:29.56
Matt
Yeah, ah the the last The last thing I’ll I’ll drop in here. Um I am I’m incredibly sad to see Beth phoenix leave the nxt commentary desk so that may also be a good reason to tune in on Tuesday. Um.
37:30.50
Jeremy
Yeah.
37:38.44
Jeremy
Um.
37:49.17
Matt
Just I’m hoping that they can find somebody even remotely as good as her I would I would absolutely love it if Samoa joe was available because I do miss him on commentary a lot but I I really I liked having that.
37:52.17
Jeremy
Um, yeah. Um, right are.
38:06.77
Matt
I liked having Beth’s voice she was she was playful and kept it light. She knew what the hell she was talking about. Um, so yeah, she will. She will definitely be. She’ll be as missed on tuesdays as gargano and o’reilly probably will be.
38:20.50
Jeremy
Yeah, well could be the could be like Gargano’s version of the salmon jacket you know it could be like I’m retiring but not really like and I’m actually staying at Nxt I signed of a bajillion year contract never going away. So.
38:26.32
Matt
Yeah.
38:32.74
Matt
Yeah, oh I did um I don’t I don’t know if you because I know you don’t watch them. But um, if you caught any of the the stuff from raw maurice and Ms. came back during an edge promo and interrupted him. Um, so there’s a lot of speculation that she may be leaving nxt so that she can get herself ring ready again. Um, which would seem a little weird like she works 1 night a week um that she wouldn’t be able to kind of kind of do both. But I guess that would take away a lot of family time.
38:54.39
Jeremy
Are.
39:04.74
Jeremy
Um, right.
39:06.71
Matt
Um, with her her having to be gone from where they’re not in Cameron but it’s somewhere in North carolina. Um.
39:10.21
Jeremy
Yeah, well and then not to ah completely forget about Moose but in that in the ah fun facts thing that I sent you today and reddit ah Moose his face both roman reigns and big e.
39:24.40
Matt
Yes.
39:25.37
Jeremy
In football like before they they got into wrestling so I thought that was a a pretty cool fact. Um, they’ve met just not on the the wrestling ring but and and it even crazier thing which apparently there’s a chaka jericho about it. But about cody rhodes and savory woods ah were on rival high school wrestling teams and face each other. Ah, several times over the years and also they had the same love interest that they were after the same girl. So like that. That’s also kind of a ah weird crazy thing and we’ll have to find that that talk is jericho to hear both sides of that that story. Um.
39:58.25
Matt
Yeah I I loved the the extra comment it was like if you listen to woodside he he likes to remind people that Cody rhodes got a pop for an arm drag at a high school wrestling match.
40:12.50
Jeremy
Ah, man all right? well ring the bell and you you can finish it off here. Matt.
40:14.21
Matt
Yeah, yeah, ring the Bell like subscribe share with everybody you know, um, who like or don’t like wrestling who knows maybe at some point I’ll just we’ll just randomly start talking about Taylor Swift I don’t know it’s It’s likely to come.
40:29.69
Jeremy
Um, who was who who who Jeff jared ah he she taylor swift was the babysitter for jeff jarret’s kids so there we go wrestling connection.
40:33.75
Matt
It’s likely to come up between us. Ah I’ll actually there you go.
40:43.65
Matt
Which is absolutely nuts. Yeah, we’ll we’ll find a way to talk about some some just truly random stuff from time to time but we have moved into December which means it’s time for me to give some stuff away so like.
40:47.69
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah.
41:00.72
Matt
Subscribe share I’ll keep an eye on who’s doing it and I might send you some stuff. Ah like I said I’ve got collectors. Um I think it’s it’s called Orange Crush magazines I have those ah both volumes that have been released.
41:11.95
Jeremy
Um.
41:17.41
Matt
I have 2 of the only 500 lithographs of a kenny omega poster that have been put out I should probably give 1 of those away because where the hell am I gonna put 2 of them. Um, and then as you can see I got plenty of stuff on the shelf so you never know what I’m going to give away I think the only thing back here that is ah.
41:22.44
Jeremy
My my.
41:36.71
Matt
Well, there’s probably 2 things back here locked down and that is tomaso champa and then the pride and joy of my whole collection. My mracco with certificate of authenticity I think those are the only 2 things on this shelf if I won’t just.
41:46.94
Jeremy
Um, nice.
41:54.77
Jeremy
Now.
41:55.16
Matt
Randomly give away so like subscribe share ring the Bell Um, and I’ll start giving away free stuff again.
42:00.71
Jeremy
Nice.