Everyone Will Survive – S03, EP15

We reminisce about great Survivor Series’ of the past while talking about 2021’s lackluster entry. Also, Matt is done with CM Punk, we try to figure out what is really happening with Cody, and, most importantly, we yammer on about weight shaming in the Cruiserweight devision.

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00:00.00
Matt
Probably find some ah we can. We can look into some um, some no royalty knockoff pit bullll stuff before we get into episode 15 but welcome to so episode 14 where we will talk about the completely stakes free survivor series.

00:08.55
Jeremy
Um, well um. Man I I got to say you know I said Yesterday that oh maybe I’ll get to it and I did I still haven’t watched survivor series I watched charlin becky and then then I was like I got some better things to do.

00:30.90
Matt
I Made my my best effort to undersell it for you. Um, it wasn’t hard because it it it literally that the the men survivor series match was just okay to watch because of who was in it. Um, but outside of that.

00:34.47
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah.

00:44.47
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah.

00:48.76
Matt
And that the the whole show was pointless. Um, yeah at which felt really tone deaf for you to be holding a Hundred million dollar egg. Ah while you’ve fired everyone around you for budgetary reasons. Um.

00:50.82
Jeremy
Um, I mean the biggest news out of it was the egg. Yeah.

00:59.63
Jeremy
So.

01:08.25
Matt
But yeah I mean the Roman gets a clean win over big e which I mean that felt like a weird ending. Um I mean particularly with yeah with.

01:16.90
Jeremy
Yeah, not a big ending.

01:23.23
Matt
With the new day on smackdown like have the Ussos interrupt so that at least you can um you can keep that that sort of story going because I’m always down for a nuso’s new day feud put it put them back inside hell in a cell. But um, yeah I mean that.

01:33.89
Jeremy
M.

01:40.91
Matt
They bookended the hell out of the show because Charlotte Becky and Roman Biggie were the only only points of the show really worth acknowledging.

01:48.51
Jeremy
Wait was it the usos their their whole t-shirt and their catchphrase was a day 1 ish right? like and we got day 1 paper view coming up I don’t know. Yeah.

01:54.50
Matt
Um, yeah, they’re not even on the poster which I thought was a little strange when they first announced that they were calling that paper view day 1 Um.

02:06.32
Jeremy
Oh.

02:11.90
Matt
So yeah, we’ll we’ll quickly shoot through survivor series here ah team raw basically clean swept this some bitch except for Roman um, oh shinsky did beat damian priest in what probably would have been the match of the night had it not been thrown into the pre-show. That I had to hunt for on youtube to watch the damn match. Um, they were they still put on a pretty good show. Ah it was a little weird how distracted damian priest got by rick boogs playing guitar at Ringside. Um, as I would just think of it as fight music.

02:43.25
Jeremy
Yeah, oh.

02:48.97
Matt
Um, but yeah, ah, shinsky and Roman got the wins for smackdown the men’s and women’s raw teams both won ah arc k bro got a win over the Usos. Um. And what was it? Oh Becky becky got a win over charlotte not necessarily clean, but um, you know you got you got you got both of your heel women champions in 1 Match. So what the hell that you expect for an ending. Um.

03:10.92
Jeremy
Um, but charlotte tried to cheat first. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:23.90
Matt
So yeah, that was survivor series just a whole lot of nothing. Um, nothing got progressed nothing nothing changed. Um, yeah, it was a whole bunch of it was four and a half hours of nothing.

03:36.61
Jeremy
Um, that’s disappointing I mean I didn’t hate the becky Charlotte match it was you know I like and if anything is the 1 that had the most stakes because of the all the backstage like rumors and and all that stuff about their. Friendship and stuff although I hate that Uo promo that they keep on playing replaying for for Charlotte and what what bother me so much actually watching that smackdown is that like why did the crowd go along with that like she’s a heel. Don’t go along with it.

04:05.64
Matt
I I can’t remember what town they were in but they got really lucky with that 1 Um I’m pretty sure if they had been at all state arena they would have started throwing shit ah which leads us into dynamite.

04:11.80
Jeremy
In.

04:17.83
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah. For.

04:25.38
Matt
Or no, what was it rampage or dynamite where Cody Cody had had projectiles come back at him. Yeah, let’s jump into dynamite.

04:31.90
Jeremy
Um, I think that was dynamite. Yeah, that was dynamite I mean they were both from the same smoke. It was both from the same same same place and the same night. They just called it Friday for part of it. Yeah.

04:42.36
Matt
Yeah, let’s let’s jump into dynamite. We’ll talk about because Dynamite had some good matches on it as did as did rampage. Um, so cody rhodes who is who has become just the most perplexing man in pro wrestling. Ah.

04:49.73
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah.

05:02.52
Matt
Throws his belt into the Chicago crowd who chant for the guy to throw it back as if the red Sox had just hit a home run at Wrigley and he obliged and got it all the way to the ring apron um, which was impressive I’m not gonna lie. Ah so.

05:18.17
Jeremy
Yeah.

05:21.54
Matt
Yeah I I’m I’m so confused. Um I I almost I’m nervous to be in his hometown crowd. Ah for his city of Atlanta street fight that he’s got with Andra day this week um

05:38.16
Jeremy
Did did does Roman have a ah hometown that we’re claiming because like because like that’s the the thing like did Roman really ever have that advantage. No not really, they.

05:47.79
Matt
Wrote it’s it’s weird because Roman I want to say that he’s he’s billed from Pensacola he played football for georgia tech and he’s samoan. So there’s there’s a it’s kind of like the rock where they couldn’t ever really pin down so they just like landed on Miami. Um, so I don’t necessarily I think it just still says pensacola. Um, but yeah I like it atlanta pops pretty hard for roman.

06:07.62
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah.

06:15.32
Jeremy
Yeah.

06:20.98
Jeremy
Yeah.

06:22.61
Matt
You know you get you get the the Georgia Tech faithful that will ah will give him a pop.

06:25.82
Jeremy
Yeah, like because like I know like as far as the shield goes I mean I guess you have iowa but I don’t think they’re going to iowa very often for ah for Seth um, but yeah cincinnati that that was like the solid. Okay, this member of the shield is from cincinnati but.

06:41.10
Matt
Yeah, yeah that I feel like they do. They do shows in des Moines and Iowa City but I don’t think that there’s an arena in davenport.

06:44.30
Jeremy
Dean didn’t any need any extra help there really, but it would be nice if if Roman got that extra extra pop. Yeah.

07:00.29
Matt
Ah, the closest ones probably university of illinois and that’s 2 and a half hours away. so but yeah so what ah what do you remember from because you you’ve probably got a better recollect. You didn’t watch. You know the the 70 seven hours of ww so.

07:02.50
Jeremy
You know all right? oh.

07:16.89
Matt
Refresh my memory on exactly what what else we got from ah from aw this week

07:19.79
Jeremy
So well, we’re gonna we’re gonna Skip. We’re gonna cause we’re gonna talk about what started off the show a second but ah, you know we’ve got we had a colton gun and billy gun kind of squash of bear country. Um. And it’s kind of really strange that billy gunn’s getting this resurgent here. But I’m kind of here I’m here for it.

07:42.62
Matt
I’m here for it too. Especially since he gets a singles match with staying in Atlanta I am I am so on board for this that crowd’s gonna go nuts doing the woo with staying. Um and i.

07:45.14
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

07:51.86
Jeremy
Yeah.

07:56.30
Matt
I just love I love watching billy gun work. He’s still got every ounce of it that he had 1520 years ago it’s nuts to see but I mean let let the man keep putting on a show because he’s he’s still killing it. Um with colton colton’s not not quite it at Daddy’s level

08:02.24
Jeremy
Right.

08:14.46
Jeremy
Right.

08:15.89
Matt
But but he he was impressive in that that glorified squash. Um I really sort of expected that. Ah Atlanta would be darby and staying versus Colton and Billy but I’m kind of I’m kind of okay with the singles match. Um.

08:29.60
Jeremy
In.

08:33.10
Matt
Probably probably be sting taking a couple of bumps that make me a little uncomfortable. But yeah, no it. It should be a good 1 and I’m I’m with you I’m I’m here for it. Just keep keep Mr. ass on tv.

08:39.53
Jeremy
Yeah, we got ah you know some friends giving action happening which you know Brit baker wasn’t happy about having to ah to defend her title like or at least. Defended a black friday deal match then this is what I hate about wwe and I I don’t even like to see it in and stuff I mean they’re trying to cover for a mistake that they went back and looked it was like oh she never was actually eliminated from that that battle of Royal from a few months ago. Um, but rijo got a chance on friday. To take on Brit baker and if she won she gets that black Friday deal and gets ah gets an actual title match. But I just don’t like this whole like I think how about this black Friday deal is like you you fight I don’t know. Like rebel or somebody least ah leave you know 1 of her minions. Whatever to get to that to the actual title Match. So let let’s save the actual winning they did it a few months ago with um with ah um, eddie and and mox against the young bucks. Where they won that that match and I I didn’t get get the thing that was for the chance to face them I thought it was the real deal and I popped real hard for it anyway, um, we had ah the you know 1 thing I will say about that that match with cody.

10:09.85
Matt
Yeah, who is that was not.

10:09.90
Jeremy
It was a bonkers match it. It was yeah it was a lot of fun but there was so many things happening in it. But the most noble worthy thing is like I had no idea what’s happening with Cody and I I Want to say he has a plan or Tony has a plan. Ah. But this sometime like if he does or he doesn’t he’s playing it really well or terribly ah like I don’t Know. Um, yeah.

10:34.77
Matt
Um, it for some reason it just I mean I’m I’m confused by the Cody thing as well. But the the other confusing thing here is that they just seem to to be sort of lost on what to do with both black and Andra day. Um.

10:40.36
Jeremy
Um.

10:51.77
Jeremy
Yeah.

10:54.63
Matt
And it’s it’s been kind of a lingering thing with Andrade and I don’t know if that’s because they’re holding out for a time where they’re comfortable bringing in rick flair. Although now I mean that may be be in Flux since. The rumor roundup wanted to make sure we knew that Andrade and charlotte unfollowed each other on every social media platform because that’s something that we should care about. Ah I I don’t know yeah i.

11:18.90
Jeremy
Who’s that time for that or for creating creating Bots to follow all these wrestlers to see who they’re liking and not liking.

11:27.00
Matt
How how are you keeping up with I mean the the following and unfollowing thing like you would have to literally have a printout of their their followers and followees and like check it every so often like it’s nuts. Maybe Charlotte got hacked and she just had to make a new account. You don’t know.

11:38.24
Jeremy
Um, yeah.

11:46.71
Matt
Um, it’s it’s any number of things but they they seem sort of lost here and I mean I I love I love watching black wrestle. Um, and other thing from this match praise b to poc because he sold that hammerlock ddt. Like he had just been spiked through the earth ah like that was nuts but it it it is. It’s it’s confusing on the on the cody front because I’m I don’t know I don’t know quit quit going to chicago ah for 1 but we’ll get to that in a minute

12:05.94
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah.

12:19.82
Jeremy
Well too late because.

12:22.38
Matt
Because I’m gonna I’m gonna rant I’m Goingnna ramp for a fucking while when we get to the the meat and potatoes of Chicago um, Jesus I wonder what kind of.

12:27.49
Jeremy
Its too late cause they’re going back on what February second groundhog day punksta tony phil punksta punk man and was like in a punks tony phil sees a shadow we get like like.

12:36.61
Matt
And wonder what kind of see see your shadow match rehob will get in that 1

12:46.36
Jeremy
Seven more shows at the win test arena between now and next summer. Um, and then so the other other noteworthy thing we had ah well we had a couple more noteworthy things american dragon brian danielson versus colt cabanna.

12:52.80
Matt
Ah I.

13:02.90
Jeremy
Ah, you know I would have liked this match to go a little bit longer longer and cold to get a little bit more in but I think story wise is actually the right way for this match to have gone. It was cool to see cold get that hometown. Love and man they’re really doing the right thing with brian danielson just killing all the. Not necessarily always in every case hometown heroes because I don’t think there’s like a huge groundswell of like ah support for Allen angels um, not that you know there shouldn’t be but he’s just not that well known at this point. Ah, but just just. Destroying all the dark order in their hometowns is quite amazing and I don’t know if they had this on on the books or they just like looked at the map and where they were scheduled and and they’re like um, this kind of works out like so ah r ip ah allen angels this week and r ip john silver. Ah.

13:58.46
Matt
I wonder ah because he he said 2 2 of the dark order members were from Atlanta so I wonder who the who the other 1 is that I guess he’ll pull double duty wednesday night and have a match on rampage 2 But.

13:59.28
Jeremy
Next next week most likely.

14:04.28
Jeremy
Yeah, oh.

14:12.56
Jeremy
Maybe I know the only 1 that’s announced is is angels for for Wednesday but we’ll we’ll see um and then ah eddie kingston keeps on getting unrupted by 2 point zero which led to a match with Dana danny garcia on on on rampage. But ah, interesting development is they interrupted and in an interview with ah jericho and jericho took kinks inside and I don’t know I’m really here for that I’m here for chris jericho doing anything. Outside of the dark order at this point like I mean dark order um inner circle and a team up with Eddie would be would be fun I think so I’d like to see them them take on 2 point zero ah together. But let’s talk about ah chicago’s.

15:07.33
Matt
Second second favorite son because I think I think they claim. Ah I think they claim Jordan even though he is not from Chicago. Um, yeah, the first.

15:09.87
Jeremy
Exhibition here. Yeah Q T Marsha. Yeah.

15:24.12
Matt
The first 30 two minutes of dynamite were dedicated solely solely to cmunng he was on tv for 32 straight Minutes. He was in a match with q t marshal that stretched across the fucking commercial break.

15:41.34
Jeremy
Yeah.

15:43.82
Matt
This show is 2 hours long on a roster that has 1 hundred and fifty fucking people on it. Why is 1 man getting 30 two minutes of tv time. Why does this same man, get a full fucking entrance on rampage to go do commentary. I’m I’ve tried I have tried I’m done I am over I don’t care if he heal turns I don’t I don’t care if he gets thrown off a fucking hell in a cell I don’t care what you do with him. Quit eating up so much fucking screen time with this guy I’m done.

16:26.74
Jeremy
I Think we need a loss and for this that the this like reunion tour whatever to to wrestling to the end and just get on with like normal stories. Essentially.

16:29.10
Matt
I I.

16:37.10
Matt
Um I he’s I don’t know and maybe it’s a disservice that Daniel Brian’s out here killing it Brian Danielson’s out here killing it. Um, every show he’s out here killing it.

16:48.80
Jeremy
Yeah.

16:56.13
Matt
Ah, and he he comes to the ring he he wrestles his Match. He may get a 1 minute promo point period slightly longer if hangman comes out but he’s not out here eating up the entire damn show. Um and punk. He I don’t know I don’t know. He’s he I’m not I’m not terribly impressed with his in ring stuff. Ah, he gets winded a minute into a match and like it it it just I don’t know I don’t know it. It doesn’t do anything for me. So yeah, he’s.

17:19.44
Jeremy
Ah.

17:30.93
Jeremy
I think.

17:33.69
Matt
He’s on a show where the other the other guy on a legend tour is just absolutely tearing it down and Adam cole exists. So I’m in a world where I don’t need Sam punk anymore.

17:44.67
Jeremy
Um, man speaking of of c and punk um or in and damn dan know Brian man brian danielson man I got to have like a like like a swear jar type thing and I had to put like a dollar in every single time. Ah.

17:54.36
Matt
Brand Dan just.

18:04.42
Jeremy
To donate to charity or something and then I’ll be broke. Um man I lost my train. Ah, ah.

18:06.50
Matt
Now every time that every time the the jar fills up. You’re required to buy whatever the closest w w show ticket is that you can you can get like you like your smack down ticket. Yay.

18:13.89
Jeremy
Ah. And oh so Adam cole. So I you know Adam cole was trending on Twitter I don’t know why I clicked on it. Ah it was basically some dude like comparing like ah like Adam cole could have been huge on the main roster like look at how he was being booked on Nxt. And like now look like he would hit how he’s being booked on on aew and it had a picture of him with the young buckcks in the ghostbusters get up and then like a picture of him with orange cassidy is that as proof that like the booking is terrible at aew and I’m like ah but he would have been a manager.

18:54.69
Matt
Yeah, yeah.

18:56.56
Jeremy
Maybe for keith lee for Bearcat lee and probably would have been cut already honestly, um, and it’s just ah, you know, maybe they’re right? Maybe there, there’s something like that and’s just like was like but there’s talk about like him doing dumb comedy shit. He’s like oh he could have been the next charn michaels. But it’s the same time It’s like sean michaels did plenty of comedy stuff on the main roster like the entire degeneration x run is comedy.

19:19.80
Matt
Ah, show Sean Michaels was partnered with geneti I mean there’s not a whole lot more comedy ah comedy and wrestling than being partnered with geneneti. So um.

19:26.91
Jeremy
Um, but.

19:39.58
Matt
Yeah I like sean michaels didn’t come out of the gate Mr. wrestlemania he he had that ladder match with with razor and he earned that damn title. Um, and at Adam coles.

19:48.21
Jeremy
Have.

19:55.62
Matt
Yeah, in in some small way. It may look like he’s spinning his wheels but at the same time that man was on screen with orange Cassidy who gets the biggest pop at every aew show and orange Cassidy was a non-factor.

20:04.66
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah.

20:10.30
Jeremy
I think I tell you like every time I watch an Adam coal match now it’s just like we’ve been robbed with the exception of a ran you know a takeover every you know quarter maybe like we’ve been robbed of seeing Adam cole on a huge stage where he’s getting that big old pop that he. Deserve to been getting for like the last several years and like like nxt really just needs to even in this new iteration needs to do some sort of touring and in in some sort of like larger events I kind of feel like they’re not anymore like it’s all going to be ah you know smaller.

20:27.83
Matt
Yeah.

20:47.40
Jeremy
Small venue and stuff. But you know whatever whatever I guess but let that also leads us to the to rampage where we had bobby fish and adam cole versus uta and orange cassidy um, ah, funny enough a uda in Japanese I guess a name meaning means 1 with many friends. So. The fact that he’s in the best friends works out a lot. Um, you know it was ah it was fun Match. Ah and and also 1 thing I like to see this match ended with a falcon arrow.

21:07.94
Matt
Yeah, had gobble, gobble baby. Yeah.

21:25.60
Jeremy
An avalanche falcon arrow but this is the first time I think I’ve ever seen a falcon era arrow as ah, excalibber says done the deal like to actually finish a match like so many people do Falcon arrows and never finishes a match and I love to see it actually happen I mean took an avalanche 1 to do it. But ah. But we’ we’re there also just a quick bobby fish thing. He’s been added to the mega championion alea match this multi-man match to determine omegas you know the vacated ah triple a championship there. Um, so that’s interesting that ah. That he’s been out of the match and it’s also the first time he’s been He’s worked in Mexico which is also kind of I don’t know. Maybe it’s not strange if you had no reason to if if you if you’re in the northeast I think he’s like Northeast area anyway. But um, we got tony nice actually. Um. Got a backstage interview and he wasn’t just sitting at the side and we are getting a match this next week here for t and t’s the t and t champion samy gavara and I’m I’m here for I think it’s gonna be a great match I don’t I don’t know if they said it was gonna be on rampage or or ah or. Or dynamite but we’ll we’ll find out. Um, oh oh yeah that’s right? Um, actually i.

22:43.62
Matt
Won’t met won’t matter to me I will be at both and I already know all 8 reasons tony niece is better than me so I cannot wait for this match like that. Dude’s amazing

22:59.11
Jeremy
So yeah.

23:01.41
Matt
It’s taken a little a little bit too long to get him into a match like this. But but yeah this that that 1 should be should be what hell of a show.

23:03.64
Jeremy
So. Um, I actually skipped over because I was just like oh we’ll come back to it but on dynamite thunderers. So rosa versus Jamie hater was excellent I wanted to save that for like oh it’ll be last thing we talked about on that and I totally forgot but it’s ah it was a hard hitting really good Match. And it’s kind of first time for me that I saw Jamie hader like really really bring it or at least bring it um on the kind of the main stage and and yes there was shenanigans there but ah it kind of made sense in that that thing and hopefully gets Jamie hader out of this position of of. With brit baker I think I think she knew on rebel not reba um or needs to be with Brit baker I think forever I’m okay with her always being there. She was hired as a makeup artist for for aew. So the fact that she’s kind of moved into an onscreen role says a lot. But I think. Um, I think that’s she’s in a good spot.

24:06.90
Matt
Yeah I I generally don’t like the shenani its endings but this 1 I I’m pretty sure no matter no matter what happened? Well we know what happened rio won her black Friday deal. So she’s the next challenger but I mean after rijo.

24:19.78
Jeremy
Yeah.

24:24.29
Matt
They’re still going to have to work to build to build to a new Challenger especially if Thunder Rosa ends up with that that Tnt Belt or Tbs belt. Um, because she I mean obviously you’re not going to have them immediately go into ah ah a belt belt feud there. Um.

24:26.53
Jeremy
Yeah.

24:38.34
Jeremy
Yeah.

24:41.42
Matt
But I really do I liked that this this setup for Jamie hader to break out and and be a new challenger because Brit has um I mean she’s she’s worked her way through most of the women’s roster already. Ah, it’s getting a little charlotte flairish so it was it was good to see them them quickly realize they need to. Storyline in a a new contender. Um, and Jamie hater that I mean that match was great. Um, ah another ah we we kind of kind of glossed it. But ah Kingston danny garcia was a hell of a lot better than I had any expectation of.

25:02.65
Jeremy
And yeah.

25:19.80
Matt
Um, so yeah I mean it was there was there was great matches on all the shows. But yeah I I actually do like Shenanigans endings when they’re going to be useful.

25:26.40
Jeremy
Yeah I think like and again like we mentioned many times Moose versus chris savin which I don’t even remember the name of the payview now like that we that we watched back last summer um but that roll up ending with with savin and Moose worked perfectly.

25:43.13
Matt
Yes.

25:45.43
Jeremy
And so you can you could do a roll up ending which we criticize w for all the time you can do it and you can you can do it right? And and those 2 proved that um and and after after that match with Kingston and garcia course 2 point zero attacked kingston in the moment that bell rang. Um. And jericho went in front of save so it very much does look like we’re getting some sort of Match. You may even see it on Wednesday or Friday you know? Well you’ll literally see it Wednesday you might see it on Friday possibly or might they may save it for another week who knows.

26:21.92
Matt
Again I’m old as shit at this point and so like they they may be like well we’re going to start filming rampage now and I just like pass out my seat. Ah unless I get real lucky in the ah what are they I don’t even know what the hell they it used to be infinite Energy arena.

26:22.63
Jeremy
We’ll see.

26:30.32
Jeremy
So.

26:40.94
Matt
I Don’t know what the hell it is now but unless they’ve they’ve got my bang energy drinks Rainbow Unicorn forever. Ah I’d a I may I may do off halfway through rampage. Thank God I got the hotel room right in front of the building. But yeah.

26:41.00
Jeremy
Yeah. Ah.

26:54.49
Jeremy
Wow yeah, that’s that’s kind of been so the other main big thing you know and I hate hate to you know it’s not actually in ring or anything like that. But ah we had someone jump the barricade on Raw last week and

26:59.79
Matt
Um.

27:13.66
Jeremy
Tackle I mean kind of ah as big of a tackle as you’d almost expect like like that guy got a running start and really tackled seth. Um, it was you know in a lot of ways kind of Scary. You kind of go of think about you know hear some of the old guys talk about how like they had to be like escorted out or like some wrestlers have gotten. Stabbed you know from from fans and stuff and kfabes dead. But at the same time people can take it very seriously there might and there might have been a ah mental health issue in this in this case as well. But you know there’s really not that much between. Fans and these wrestlers and you had to be real quick to not get tackled by security. But you know it can be real scary. So yeah.

28:00.40
Matt
Yeah, he he got there quick um like it did it I don’t I couldn’t even tell where he came from. He came out of nowhere so quickly. But yeah he had he hit Seth any lower I think I think that it’s it could have been bad.

28:18.14
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah.

28:19.77
Matt
Because he he got him hard but he hit him. He hit him up top so he went down like a football tackle instead of getting him lower in the spine where it would have would have messed him up but guy I mean Seth. Thank god he’s he’s as conditioned as he is because he he spun that around and had the guy in ah in a chokehold like almost immediately um and and held him down till security. Got there. But yeah, that is terrifying how quickly he was able to to get over the barricade and get to him.

28:40.20
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah.

28:54.11
Matt
To the point where there weren’t any security guys given chase. Um, it took a good long while before anybody even made it out there to like help Seth get him out, get him off. Um, so that that yeah little scary. Um.

28:56.47
Jeremy
Now now.

29:07.30
Jeremy
Yeah I saw for another angle. So like the kind of the the section to the right of the stage like he came out the back of that section ran around basically on the front of the stage or like on the edge of the stage and then and then got to set so he he had like a good.

29:12.40
Matt
Um, yeah.

29:25.43
Jeremy
I don’t know 20 feet to get ah get that speed before he tackled him but it seems like we’ve had a lot you know and maybe I’m just thinking thinking about. But since we’ve had a return to fans we had that incident with Jericho a few months ago. Um, where that guy got into the ring and I think jericho kind of clocked him. Ah, you know I just feel like it’s and maybe just I don’t it just seems like it’s been happening a lot. The interesting thing with about this is it’s rumored to be um that the guy got catfished by a fake seth rawlins twitter account and this is not the first time a fake seth rollins. Twitter account has caused the real colby lopez some some problems like some lady like showed up at his house ah like saying that they were in a relationship and stuff like that and thankfully he was ah, not there and was looking at this on a ring door cam. Um. And interacting with this lady. Ah, but it’s still like still crazy man and who is this this evil seth rollins twitter account that’s doing all this. So yeah, yeah.

30:29.46
Matt
Dads.

30:32.90
Matt
And is is apparently really good at it. So yeah, it’s it’s nuts but brighter spots. Raw wasn’t bad. Um, there was a lot of wrestling on this show I can’t remember most of it. But the. The highlight of this show. Ah, it’s kind of kind of low light underscored by the the ongoing saga of the Hundred million dollar golden egg. But um, we got a w to b championship match between biggie and austin theory. Ah.

31:09.20
Jeremy
Go.

31:11.67
Matt
This match was hooking awesome. Um I remember seeing austin theory several years ago, you know at a little strip strip mall in Atlanta ah wrestled tren burt do what.

31:22.90
Jeremy
Been great if you would be great if you were like I saw him at a strip club a couple of years ago.

31:28.18
Matt
I he I think at the time when I saw him he was only nineteen um or or something something nuts. But I mean had a match with trent burretta. Um, who who still had a last name at the time. Um and just the match was great I could tell that kid was gonna be something.

31:31.28
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah.

31:48.13
Matt
But like he he’s got some star power man. There’s just some kind of weird charisma about him. It’s not. It’s not quite Adam cole or or like keith lee level where it just sort of oozes out of him but but there’s there’s something about him. He’s he’s gonna be if he can.

32:00.98
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah.

32:06.82
Matt
Keep from getting whatever heat it was. He got last time he got sent back? Um I mean if he can keep his head down and and and keep doing what what viny Mac asks. Um I The Hell Sky’s the limit for this kid. But that that match was great. I was I was very impressed with that match.

32:22.25
Jeremy
Mia. He probably just sneezed in the presence of vince mcmahon so he had to go back down to nxt to like for for vince to forget about it and so you come back.

32:33.50
Matt
Send him back down for vaccination. Yeah, ah other other ww stuff this week the ah nxt had a triple threat match for the North american championship.

32:38.32
Jeremy
Ah, ah.

32:51.25
Matt
I am all but positive Carmelo Hayes retained ah via some shenanigans but it was shenanigans that did set up the war games match. Um, it will be braun Breaker joining Carmelo Hayes and shit what is it.

32:53.35
Jeremy
He did.

33:11.11
Matt
Tall Kids Graceson Waller and there is another heel will be taking on the temporary alliance of the artists formerly known as Di Iy Ah L a Knight will be on the ah the old guard team. As will Pete Dunn Um, so that that match should be should be pretty fricking. Incredible. Um.

33:35.35
Jeremy
Um, I’m I’m inside of it like like there already sounds like I mean there’s not necessarily like is there stakes I’m not sure. But if if there’s not stakes. There’s at least a story there. There’s a backstory that you can lean on and and I’m here for that I’m I’m excited for that.

33:44.77
Matt
Um, yeah, yeah, all all the for the most part all the guys. Ah all the guys in the match are are involved in in in feuds of of some sort.

33:53.24
Jeremy
Gargano.

34:00.34
Jeremy
Um.

34:02.33
Matt
Um, but it’s it. Most of it is is the new guys wanting to take champa’s throne. Um, but I mean you’ve you’ve had gargano and done in this in this feud for the the North american thing with Carmelo hayes um l a knight.

34:10.88
Jeremy
Yeah.

34:22.50
Matt
Has has ah he just wrestled Grace and Waller Um, that was a good match to um, but yeah’s there’s There’s all this all these guys on it actually now that I’m thinking about it. Oh no, they’ve got a singles match Cameron grimes and Duke hudson.

34:27.60
Jeremy
M.

34:40.57
Matt
Will be ah will be facing off in a hair versus hair match after duke hudson trimmed the beard 2 weeks ago on Nxt ah got to tell you cameron grimes looked great with the ah the kind of cleaned up beard like really did he looked great. Um.

34:55.20
Jeremy
Ah.

34:59.78
Matt
And you you don’t really ever notice it but he he’s a good looking dude um, bright, Bright blue eyes. ah but yeah ah war game should be great. Um, if everybody’s given ample time to wrestle their matches war game should be great.

35:04.96
Jeremy
Yeah.

35:14.28
Jeremy
So and we’re just doing this in the the performance center right? like.

35:18.74
Matt
Yeah, in front of ah um, is he’s parents and all of her cronies because because the rest of us don’t get to see Nx T shows live for all the trolls. So.

35:25.44
Jeremy
But and they think a bit.

35:32.59
Jeremy
I just um I’m just wondering it was just physically I’m wondering I’m sure they’re gonna do it and it’s gonna look great but I’m just like how is that physically gonna fit the 2 rings and the whole thing I mean they’re gonna really have to like kind of rearrange some stuff to make it make it work. But.

35:48.35
Matt
Probably if if they move the commentary desk up to the the stage like up above where the crowd is it should open up enough space. Um, they may have to turn the ring sideways and go corner to corner. But it should fit. It’s gonna be tight.

35:50.22
Jeremy
Um, so.

35:53.97
Jeremy
Yeah, um.

36:02.36
Jeremy
Um, yeah, yeah, well.

36:07.80
Matt
But it it should fit I don’t know where the hell they’re going to put the cages that they’re locked in um, for each entrant but that that’ll be just just theme songs. Go off. That’s how we do this? Um, so yeah, it’s.

36:15.79
Jeremy
This is to be backstage. Yeah, um.

36:26.33
Matt
Those those matches should be nuts. It should be a good show. Um, you got your your advantage matches on Nxt this coming Tuesday which which should also be good kaylee ray and shit which 1 of the 1 of the toxic attraction women.

36:44.98
Jeremy
Um.

36:46.29
Matt
Are are Goingnna have a ladder match I think um and then maybe maybe gargano and grace and wall or or the other 1 I’m I’m not 1 hundred percent sure. But both of those advantage matches are this week on nxd yeah.

37:00.79
Jeremy
Yeah, it’d be interesting. So also ah gargano signed a a weak extension kind of like what cole did so he could be doing finish out that and he could be in his in the first war games match he I guy was actually surprised me that he hasn’t been in a war games match before.

37:08.35
Matt
Yeah.

37:19.63
Jeremy
Um, so I’m excited to see him do that? Um, but I you know it really I Really can’t tell with him on which direction will go Um I could see him just doing either or especially with.

37:19.75
Matt
Um, yeah.

37:35.35
Jeremy
With candace probably being locked up in her contract by the time she comes back from from giving birth and stuff like that I mean she’ll probably be in that contract at least until the end of the 2022 with the time they’ll probably add on to the contract. So it’s like does he go go to.

37:44.64
Matt
Yeah.

37:53.00
Jeremy
To say with W W E does he goes somewhere else I guess we find out.

37:54.40
Matt
I guess at least with at least aew you’re only gone to maybe 3 days a week on ah a paper view week and they can go with you then? um, but other than that I mean jacksonville and orlando are not that far apart. Um.

38:01.77
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah.

38:10.64
Jeremy
Right? right.

38:13.56
Matt
it’s what 2 and a half hours so it’s it’s really not not too much of a stretch. Um, if he if he does jump ship. But yeah your her being locked up for another year is probably ah, a hard 1 to swallow. Um, unless they basically flat out tell him like.

38:27.52
Jeremy
Yeah.

38:33.60
Matt
Yeah, your your booking’s probably going to go to shit which according to Adam Cole Sean Michaels may look at him and tell him upfront like this is what’s coming down from the top like do what’s going to make you happy.

38:34.59
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

38:43.73
Jeremy
Um, yeah, ah yeah, and like I think it will be ah, a big bummer for him not being around shaw Michaels all the time I think that’s like yeah I mean sounds like a dream come true. Really if you’re a wrestler, especially his size. Ah.

38:54.00
Matt
Death.

39:02.59
Jeremy
You know he he idolized him so leo.

39:03.14
Matt
That that seems to be the the the ones that have jumped ship and gone to aew that seems to be the 1 thing that’s hardest on them is leaving sean michaels god I don’t know but it it can’t come soon enough.

39:10.48
Jeremy
Um, yeah, when shall Michael’s contract up the. Yeah.

39:22.22
Matt
You know you know he he’s not liking that this new. Ah, you know lack of autonomy that he’s got.

39:27.36
Jeremy
Yeah, well and then I guess he Triple H has been back at work So That’s that’s exciting that his health is stabilized to us a point where he could do that. So wish him the best and we’re thankful that he’s still alive. And still with us that’s in real dark the way I put put that but no trip H is 1 of the best to ever Do it. So it’s it’s it’s I’m glad that he ah he caught whatever this the hard issue was and and and got that taken care Of. Um.

39:56.81
Matt
So it’s also good to hear that nepotism is still alive and well as hunter and Stephanie’s oldest daughter is now at the performance center.

40:06.51
Jeremy
All right I mean I’m pretty sure we’re probably going to hear something about Shane if you know as long as ah, he’s in good graces there because I mean his oldest son’s probably around the age to maybe start training as well. So.

40:19.55
Matt
Oh shit. Are we going to get a new ah just a rehashing of the no this is my inheritance storyline because that I mean I’m I’m okay with it. It worked the first time. Ah none of them ended up with the company. Um.

40:26.98
Jeremy
Yes.

40:35.34
Jeremy
And.

40:38.75
Matt
But ah, what else do we have this week I forgot to check in on Moose um I watched smackdown. Um, it was just more of Roman being awesome um several matches. And then the roster is so thinned out that when they did a 20 man battle Royal to determine who romans next challenger would be It was pretty much everyone who had already wrestled on the show having to pull double duty I think the only guy that went in there fresh with was mansour.

41:08.61
Jeremy
Amen.

41:14.10
Matt
Um, so that that was ah a bit nuts. Ah it got a real shady ending um in in multiple ways. Ah jeff hardy won this thing. Um or so they made you believe because the bell rang and he was announced as the winner. Until during his celebration. Sammy zane slid back into the ring and threw him out and then the bell rang and he was announced as the winner during the post-match interview with Kayla in the ring.

41:36.53
Jeremy
Ah.

41:43.24
Matt
He got 2 words out before he was interrupted so that she could break the news that Brock lesner’s suspension had been lifted so sorry sammy zane but your title opportunity is not going to go well. Um, unless this is like the super swerve.

41:53.61
Jeremy
Yeah, doesn’t matter.

42:03.17
Matt
And sammy zane’s finally going to get beyond the conspiracy that has been holding him down for so long win this belt only to be dismantled in about ten seconds by Brock listener. Ah.

42:12.67
Jeremy
Or he actually defeats Broc lessner Somehow like yeah like that. Yeah yeah.

42:21.13
Matt
That that would be nuts. Maybe maybe that’s it maybe brock was like I’m tired of having the same match. Give me 1 of these these goofy give me give me this sammy zane kid ah because I mean you know we’ve seen when brock gets to call his shots and like enjoys what he’s doing brock puts on a pretty good show.

42:29.61
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah.

42:39.11
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah.

42:41.11
Matt
Um, so maybe it’s that ah I know brock liked working with with Wyatt ah he enjoyed that. Um I know he wanted to wrestle knockamura and they still haven’t made that shit happen. Um, so maybe we can get to there at some point he’d have to win another damn royal rumble.

42:58.61
Jeremy
Yeah.

43:00.73
Matt
Um, and then somehow Baron corbin would steal his championship opportunity because that’s that’s how this shit works right? um.

43:09.23
Jeremy
Yeah.

43:12.24
Matt
Yeah, no I the hell at this point I’m locking my pick in for the rumble winner early austin theory wins the royal rumble in 22 ah he’s got. He’s got the look. He’s he’s tall and he’s you know he’s only like 23 so he’s exactly what vince wants.

43:20.65
Jeremy
With the row romo that only had fifteen.

43:30.13
Jeremy
The Royal rumble that only has fifteen people in the match because they don’t have enough people to do it.

43:37.28
Matt
Yeah, everybody’s going to have to pull a mick foley and wrestle is 3 different characters. Ah, just just so that we can hit 30 either that or it’s going to be the the worst legends parade of all time. Ah, they’ll they’ll have to call the damn rock and roll express in.

43:41.92
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah.

43:49.54
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah.

43:56.14
Matt
Um, shit who else have we got goldberg would get in there and break the record for eliminations only to be eliminated by interest number 30 austin theory ah at which point guge.

44:04.77
Jeremy
Yeah.

44:09.93
Matt
Goldberg would jump on Austin theory’s back and then we would get a fast lane match between theory and goldberg where he would attempt murder again. Ah yeah god booking is so much fun. We only harp on their booking because they repeat everything so damn often.

44:15.91
Jeremy
Man.

44:28.16
Matt
If they if they would even just just just vary things slightly roll ups work but not when 6 out of 8 matches on a card end that way we did the same thing for full gear because they they bid each other in every damn match. So it’s not just you guys.

44:36.30
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah.

44:42.67
Jeremy
Look at that.

44:47.18
Matt
I’m not I’m not I’m not part of the cult as some have started calling it um of aew I just if if you book 8 matches on a card. They can’t all have the same fucking ending like that’s all a mask and as all a mask and let at least.

44:59.77
Jeremy
There.

45:04.85
Matt
At least four of 8 get clean finishes like clean normal finishes. Ah it just you can do screwy finishes and in the other four just give me at least at least the fifty percent mark that’s all I’m asking for.

45:17.43
Jeremy
Yeah, well I think we’ll wrap it up there and we’ll check in with you some point next week to see how many matches did Matt sleep through at the the dynamite rampage shaping.

45:33.26
Matt
I Don’t know what time did rampage start. Ah now it It should be a good show I You know for all the weirdness about Cody Cody on dry should be a great match. Um I get I get that I get to see Tony Knees I.

45:36.80
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah.

45:49.37
Jeremy
Um, yeah, sting.

45:52.63
Matt
I’ve I’ve truthfully I’ve wanted I don’t recall ever actually getting to see tony niece wressell live outside of the the pre-show cruiser weight match. Um in Orlando for wrestlemania.

46:02.64
Jeremy
Um, ah.

46:08.33
Matt
Um, I’m pretty sure that was that was the only time and it was him and Cedric Alexander I think um back when back when you could keep up with who had the cruiser weight belt because it mattered it’s rodrick strong by the way for those of you keeping count who will defend his belt.

46:13.10
Jeremy
I don’t know and I remember.

46:26.99
Matt
At war games against 2 hundred and 45 pound Joe casey because we can’t wait shame people by limiting who can be in the cruiser weight division. Um, go go talk to dana white about this 1 and see how.

46:29.27
Jeremy
No way shaming.

46:38.31
Jeremy
Ah. I mean in ah in Ww sense. Ah like you also had Ray Mysterio going for the heavyweight Championship. So I do see a little bit of this point.

46:45.64
Matt
See how well that goes.

46:56.20
Matt
They never outlined a floor for the heavyweight championship that I mean I don’t make the rules um like every every combat sport in the world has weight classes for reason It’s a safety issue. It’s.

46:59.77
Jeremy
Yeah, no.

47:13.75
Matt
It’s never been questioned in terms of making people ah upset with themselves. Ah, there’s no efforts to shame. It’s so that that like brock lesner and cody garrantt who is like 1 hundred and sixty pounds soak and wet weren’t in the octagon at the same time.

47:17.33
Jeremy
M.

47:32.49
Matt
Like he could literally punch through that guy’s skull. Um, so it it was a little It was a little weird particularly since they they have made leaps and bounds in in terms of trying to legitimize themselves even scripted trying to legitimize themselves as a combat sport.

47:48.46
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah.

47:51.50
Matt
Um, it it felt like a ah ah bit funny in in in terms of of of going that route with it. But everything about Joe case he’s irritating a shit so we might as well keep that trainer Roland ah.

48:04.26
Jeremy
Ah, all right? Well ah like subscribe ring the bell if you’re on Youtube or you know whatever thing you can do I don’t tell a friend send a.

48:15.68
Matt
Don’t leave me any comments about my Cm punk opinions because I don’t care what you think he’s not for everybody I’m sorry to tell you he’s He’s just not ah but yeah ring the Bell like subscribe share. Um.

48:24.94
Jeremy
No.

48:32.92
Matt
We’re getting into December um, and I’m just in a great damn mood here lately? Ah so it’s it’s getting to the season of giving ah like subscribe share I keep track of that shit in December and we start giving away my stuff I got cool shit back here.

48:38.79
Jeremy
And.

48:50.15
Jeremy
Um, yeah.

48:51.83
Matt
So we’ll start giving some of it away ah like subscribe share ring bells milk cows. Whatever the hell it is that youtube wants you to do now and we will see you next week

49:00.23
Jeremy
All right.